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Mno Feb 13, 2015 @ 8:16am
Spying on someone?
I have the Intrigue focus but I only have the option to spy on people in my kingdom. I sent my spymaster where the person I want to spy on rules, but I don't have the Spy On option. Why?
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The CEO of Based Feb 13, 2015 @ 9:31am 
I think that sadly it is how the game is programmed.
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Mno Feb 13, 2015 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by Saracenvs Exterminatore:
I think that sadly it is how the game is programmed.

So is there any Focus that isn't completely useless? :/
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Thundercracker Feb 13, 2015 @ 1:02pm 
Originally posted by Eurotrash the Biclops:
Originally posted by Saracenvs Exterminatore:
I think that sadly it is how the game is programmed.

So is there any Focus that isn't completely useless? :/
business. allows you to set up a trade route that gives a 30% tax modifier in your capitol. a 30% bonus for a good number of years is far from worthless.

the basic stat bonus you get for even chosing a focus makes it worthwhile enough to me. sometimes you need that diplomacy/stewardship bonus to keep you above the vassal/demnse limit.
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Mno Feb 13, 2015 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by LORD GALVATRON:
Originally posted by Eurotrash the Biclops:

So is there any Focus that isn't completely useless? :/
business. allows you to set up a trade route that gives a 30% tax modifier in your capitol. a 30% bonus for a good number of years is far from worthless.

the basic stat bonus you get for even chosing a focus makes it worthwhile enough to me. sometimes you need that diplomacy/stewardship bonus to keep you above the vassal/demnse limit.

Intrigue seems to be useful against factions, or just giving me a reason to imprison a vassal without the others screaming "HITLER" at me. Still...
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Ixal Feb 13, 2015 @ 4:22pm 
The only focus that is imo useless is seduction and theology. Everything else can be quite useful.
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Skyte100 Feb 13, 2015 @ 7:27pm 
Originally posted by Ixal:
The only focus that is imo useless is seduction and theology. Everything else can be quite useful.
Theology can be useful for Muslims since piety is important. Seduction is good before you are married if you want lots of kids. Since a wife that loves you has a higher chance of giving kids than one that doesnt.
Last edited by Skyte100; Feb 13, 2015 @ 7:28pm
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Razorblade Feb 13, 2015 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Ixal:
The only focus that is imo useless is seduction and theology. Everything else can be quite useful.
Seduction is OP. Impregnate any and every strong genius of your religion in the world, then legitimize what ever bastard best suits your fancy, while all of the rest are just normal people living out their lives in the world. Or, if you are a patrician, legitimize every child possible and rule the world's greatest trading empire.
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Mno Feb 15, 2015 @ 3:24pm 
Seduction is buggy as hell :/ And I don't mean STD.
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Thundercracker Feb 15, 2015 @ 8:57pm 
Originally posted by Eurotrash the Biclops:
Seduction is buggy as hell :/ And I don't mean STD.
fun, though ;D

anyone know an average time on breaking someone out of prison? figured i'd ask in here as we were already talking about intrigue focus.
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Mno Feb 16, 2015 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by LORD GALVATRON:
anyone know an average time on breaking someone out of prison? figured i'd ask in here as we were already talking about intrigue focus.

It's down to RNG I think. So far I've always been able to break them out before the year was over...
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Cheese Feb 16, 2015 @ 1:12am 
Foci are not useless, well knowledge and theology suck tbh.
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Thundercracker Feb 16, 2015 @ 2:18am 
Originally posted by Eurotrash the Biclops:
Originally posted by LORD GALVATRON:
anyone know an average time on breaking someone out of prison? figured i'd ask in here as we were already talking about intrigue focus.

It's down to RNG I think. So far I've always been able to break them out before the year was over...
after 8, i said screw it, and just had the guy murdered instead.
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Newton's Flaming Laser Sword Feb 16, 2015 @ 4:31am 
Seduction is funny, I went from 1 to 150 dynasty members with three rulers lol. Downside is that everyone's doing everyone and your children are probably not even yours. I have so many children now that soon my family will go from owning 5 kingdoms, 1 empire to 7 kingdoms and two empires. It's a bit O.P.
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Mno Feb 16, 2015 @ 9:06am 
Originally posted by Fiddlesticks party hard!:
Seduction is funny, I went from 1 to 150 dynasty members with three rulers lol. Downside is that everyone's doing everyone and your children are probably not even yours. I have so many children now that soon my family will go from owning 5 kingdoms, 1 empire to 7 kingdoms and two empires. It's a bit O.P.

If playing on Very Hard it seems to be the only way you can have heirs at all, so I guess it's not completely worthless.
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