Crusader Kings II

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Bermbom Apr 25, 2014 @ 12:44pm
There is Ragnar Lothbrok in Crusader Kings 2
Given if you have the add-on The Old Gods.
He is the deceased father of the snake eye king. You can find that king near Kattegat.

If you've ever seen the TV-show ''Vikings'' you will know.

Awesome.
Last edited by Bermbom; Apr 25, 2014 @ 12:45pm
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Kust Apr 25, 2014 @ 12:48pm 
Of course hes in the game. He IS a historical person after all (although there are debates about which person). He is the father of Ivar, Halfdan, Sigurdr, and the courtier guy. Historically, he's also the adoptive father of a man named Udtred but Udtred isn't in the game.
Mikey Apr 25, 2014 @ 6:01pm 
Originally posted by kkoopman3:
Of course hes in the game. He IS a historical person after all (although there are debates about which person). He is the father of Ivar, Halfdan, Sigurdr, and the courtier guy. Historically, he's also the adoptive father of a man named Udtred but Udtred isn't in the game.

You forgot Björn Ironside (king of Sweden)
Langkard Apr 25, 2014 @ 8:14pm 
The show follows some of the information about Ragnar from the sagas. The real person is debatable as to identity: he could be any one of a number of possible historically documented people, including the Horik who appears as King Horik in the show. As to his sons, whether or not they were actually all his sons is debatable, but they are mostly historical figures. The Great Heathen Army was a real event and some of the Ango-Saxon Chronicle and the Historia Regum Anglorum matches up with the sagas, such as the blood eagle being intended for King Aelle as revenge for the killing of Ragnar. Haldfan in the sagas and the game and the Hvitserk in the show are likely the same person - Hvitserk being named in some sagas and Halfdan in others, but never the two together. The eldest son, Bjorn, you know is the supposed founder of the Munso dynasty of Sweden. The second eldest named in the show, Ubbe, is one of the leaders of the historical Great Heather Army but doesn't appear in the game. Ivar is the same in both, although there is a lot of debate over what the nickname "the boneless" actually meant. King Ecbert and King Aelle are historical but were not kings at the same time. King Ecbert was the grandfather of the renowned Alfred the Great and reigned from about 802 to 839. King Aelle, however, reigned several decades later from the mid-860's to his death in 867, reportedly at the hands of Ragnar's sons after their Great Heathen Army took York in 866.

Other stuff in the show is not so accurate. The timeline is compressed greatly, as seen in the reigns of Aelle and Ecbert. The historical viking attack at Lindisfarne was in 793 and the Great Heathen Army of Ragnar's sons appeared in 865. That would make Ragnar either very young attacking Lindisfarne or his sons very old when they invaded with their army 72 years later. It is unlikely that Ragnar was responsible for the attack at Lindisfarne. Whomever Ragnar really was, he lived several decades later, during the reign of King Aelle. Ragnar's brother Rollo in the show might just be a deliberate conflation with the historical viking Rollo who founded the Duchy of Normandy after extorting it from the king of France. The randy daughter of King Offa of Mercia in the show appears to be a complete fabrication. She might be a sort of combination of Offa's four daughters, especially Eadburh, who supposedly was ejected from her position as an abbess in France after an affair with a man. She had reportedly fled to Francia after accidentally poisoning her husband King Beorhtric of Wessex, who was succeeded by the King Ecbert in the show. Calling Ragnar's village Kattegat is another invention. That's really the name for the straight between Denmark and Norway. And the village where Lagertha marries the earl then becomes the earl is called Hedeby in the show, but the real Hedeby was situated at the far southern portion of Jutland in relative lowlands near what is now Schleswig and was the largest city of the vikings during the Viking Era and a well-known tading center.
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ItzWinters Aug 22, 2014 @ 12:21pm 
Ubbe is in the game. He is a courtier of Hvitserks
Taiwan Number One Aug 22, 2014 @ 12:37pm 
What's the big deal with this Ragnar dude again save for his death which made his sons cranky?
mcwisni Oct 27, 2018 @ 4:42am 
Start at the Time of Charlemagne, Choose Sigurd , hey hast a son ragnarr Sigurdson. That‘s him
𝔜𝔲𝔢 Oct 27, 2018 @ 7:03am 
... really?! You don't say ...
(why would you necro a 4(!) year old thread just for that? -_-)
ArchAngelOsis Oct 27, 2018 @ 9:08am 
because its the internet and nothing on it is ever really dead....it's just lingering like comparison between the GOAT MJ and the not so GOAT Lebron
F1aw1ess Oct 27, 2018 @ 11:50am 
Originally posted by ArchAngelOsis:
because its the internet and nothing on it is ever really dead....it's just lingering like comparison between the GOAT MJ and the not so GOAT Lebron


lebron isnt even close to GOAT
amberphilson Aug 23, 2021 @ 3:12pm 
Is is possible to play as Lagertha? If so, what year and where?
Langkard Aug 23, 2021 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by amberphilson:
Is is possible to play as Lagertha? If so, what year and where?

No. Lagertha was fictional. Well, technically so is Ragnarr, but you can play as him if you have the Charlemagne DLC and start in 769 as his father Sigurdr Ring in Svíþjóð. His son Ragnarr is already born and you will eventually play as him if he lives.
Riflas Aug 23, 2021 @ 9:28pm 
I don't recall Vikings speaking English.
Preacher Aug 24, 2021 @ 5:05pm 
so we cant play as the guy with poopy pants?
tf.take Aug 25, 2021 @ 12:15pm 
Originally posted by Kust:
Historically, he's also the adoptive father of a man named Udtred but Udtred isn't in the game.
please tell me it wasn't uhtred of bebbanburg..

Originally posted by Taiwan Number One:
What's the big deal with this Ragnar dude again save for his death which made his sons cranky?
i'm pretty sure he was the first viking leader to sail west with a raiding party, he was the first to raid in england as well as successfully sacking paris, and sailing unexplored waters in those early days must have been considerably more difficult than in his sons' time (867). though it is not known for certain if it was the same ragnar..he is also known as a danish and swedish king, but most importantly he is what links all of his sons together which adds to his own fame.
galadon3 Aug 25, 2021 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by saned:
please tell me it wasn't uhtred of bebbanburg..
That guy is complete fiction
The next best thing to an historical figure he might be inspired by SOMEWHAT is this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uhtred_the_Bold
but the guy in the books and show and his life are a complete fabrication

Originally posted by Taiwan Number One:
i'm pretty sure he was the first viking leader to sail west with a raiding party, he was the first to raid in england as well as successfully sacking paris, and sailing unexplored waters in those early days must have been considerably more difficult than in his sons' time (867). though it is not known for certain if it was the same ragnar..he is also known as a danish and swedish king, but most importantly he is what links all of his sons together which adds to his own fame.

pretty much none of that is in any way secured, that he was part of the sacking of paris in 845 or at least a leader who is identified as him is pretty much the most secure thing you can say about that figure, wich btw makes it higly unlikely that he plundered Lindisfarne in 793, after all even if you'd assume him to be rather young at that time it would mean he would have been well in his sixties by the time of the sacking of Paris.
Also even though Lindisfarne is usually seen as the start of the viking raids there are viking attacks earlier.
The whole nonsense about those waters being "unknown" is a pure fabrication of the show, the North Sea is well traversed by frisian traders at the time who were very much in contact with scandinavia, not to speak of the fact that tribes from jutland as well as the saxons crossed those waters already in roman times to plunder those coasts.
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