Wars end when enemy monarch dies even tho i still have cb

[Tantal]

Why is this happening? Is that a bug or feature?

[Nehebsis]

It's probably not a bug. But I need way more info to be able to explain why exactly. Who were you attacking? Was he independent? What CB did you use? Printscreens? etc...

[Tantal]

Yes
I was playing as Poland, attacking saxony, conquest casus belli
Suddenly war ends, with province in question remaining part of saxony

[saifungchen]

oh there is a LIEGE change? like someone inside Saxony overthrew him? or he has no heir of his own so a new ruling family rules in Saxony? if that is true then ur CB would be invalid. This happened to me many times fighting the Bulgarians when I was the Magyars... when u used like 4k troops heavily invested into the war and then the war ended... and then u'll need to use another 500 prestige subjuation (which I didn't have).. and have to RESTART... I know the feeling XD (before horse lords)

[Holy Athena]

I'd be happy to help you anytime in CK II. Many of its rules, especially concerning War, and territories can be extremely daunting when first learning them. Nearly made me rage quit years ago when I was first trying CK II until I realized what was going on.

The #1 biggest thing though is that CK II doesn't focus on "Countries, Factions, or Nations". Like Total War games, and other games. You aren't attacking Saxony with most CB's, you're attacking the leader him/herself. If they die.. invalid CB.

This isn't true for all CB's however.

[Tantal]

Yes that is it. He was overthrown. I still think that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but at least i know what happens.

[Legionary Guard]

Also, CKII is really inconsistent in what it considers a liege change during war.

Basically, a king declares war on another king for... for whatever reason. One of the kings dies due to whatever cause. CKII has about even odds of invalidating the entire war due to that death, due to some arcane logic processer I haven't been able to divine the workings of.

Claimant wars expecially get hit hard with this. Claimant DW king. Claimant dies. CKII has about even odds of continuing the war anyway under the claimant's closest relative.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by pikelxxx:

Yes that is it. He was overthrown. I still think that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but at least i know what happens.

It's how it was during the medieval days. It is actually historical. They didn't declare war in most cases on a country itself. They declared it on the person or leader.

The reason for this is because unlike countries today, back then land was owned by 1 person. Not by the government per say. Every bit of land had a title to it. Kings, Barons, or.. anyone with a sizeable army would declare war over that title.

Now, realistically when a change in ownership happened often times they would just keep the war going, simply because nothing serious changed. However, in the game Sometimes a change in ownership drastically changes whether you want to fight a war or not, either because he brings in some serious new allies, or because he is actually very friendly towards you and would be more suited as an Ally rather than an enemy. It's the games way of letting you decide whether you want to continue the war or not.

If you do.. Just re declare war on him and keep going as if nothing happened.

[Tantal]

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

Originally posted by pikelxxx:

Yes that is it. He was overthrown. I still think that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but at least i know what happens.

It's how it was during the medieval days. It is actually historical. They didn't declare war in most cases on a country itself. They declared it on the person or leader.

The reason for this is because unlike countries today, back then land was owned by 1 person. Not by the government per say. Every bit of land had a title to it. Kings, Barons, or.. anyone with a sizeable army would declare war over that title.

Now, realistically when a change in ownership happened often times they would just keep the war going, simply because nothing serious changed. However, in the game Sometimes a change in ownership drastically changes whether you want to fight a war or not, either because he brings in some serious new allies, or because he is actually very friendly towards you and would be more suited as an Ally rather than an enemy. It's the games way of letting you decide whether you want to continue the war or not.

If you do.. Just re declare war on him and keep going as if nothing happened.

That's what i did, but i differ on historicity. After all, remember first crusade. During crusade a owner of holy land changed, yet crusader did not stop.

[Holy Athena]

Originally posted by pikelxxx:

Originally posted by Holy Athena:

It's how it was during the medieval days. It is actually historical. They didn't declare war in most cases on a country itself. They declared it on the person or leader.

The reason for this is because unlike countries today, back then land was owned by 1 person. Not by the government per say. Every bit of land had a title to it. Kings, Barons, or.. anyone with a sizeable army would declare war over that title.

Now, realistically when a change in ownership happened often times they would just keep the war going, simply because nothing serious changed. However, in the game Sometimes a change in ownership drastically changes whether you want to fight a war or not, either because he brings in some serious new allies, or because he is actually very friendly towards you and would be more suited as an Ally rather than an enemy. It's the games way of letting you decide whether you want to continue the war or not.

If you do.. Just re declare war on him and keep going as if nothing happened.

That's what i did, but i differ on historicity. After all, remember first crusade. During crusade a owner of holy land changed, yet crusader did not stop.

Crusades are different, and won't end in CK II either if the ruler changes.