Rise of the Shia to player?

[Andariel Halo]

Can the "Rise of the Shia" uprising event happen to the player if they're playing as Shia? As in, I started in 700s AD as the Hashimid Emirate, the only ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in Abbasid Arabia, and am wondering if the Rise of the Shia event can happen even if I'm still in existence?


Also, is there any way I could gain control of the Shia uprising faction/troops?

[BatCat]

Yes, but only if you convert the majority of the suni faith to shia (and of course control the majority of the holly sites), then the event will trigger converting the suni to Hershey status.

Note: to the best of my knowledge (unless something unknown to me has changed) you can't do that to the catholic faith.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by thevampiresfamiliar:

Yes, but only if you convert the majority of the suni faith to shia (and of course control the majority of the holly sites), then the event will trigger converting the suni to Hershey status.

Note: to the best of my knowledge (unless something unknown to me has changed) you can't do that to the catholic faith.

incorrect. that's how any religion works. if a heresy becomes the majority, the majority becomes a heresy. shia is not a heresy, it is a different branch of the muslem parent religion.

also, he's speaking of the rise of the shia caliphite. it's an event that spawns a good character who starts with the title of the shia caliphite.

as far as i know, so long as the shia caliphite does not exist, it can happen, to the wiki!

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Casus_Belli#Rise_of_the_Shia_Caliphate
http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Religious_head#Caliphates

so, it can happen, and you can do it.

[Andariel Halo]

From what I hear, the wiki is notoriously unreliable, and it doesn't specify anywhere whether you the player can become the Shia Caliph who rises, or if it even happens if you play as a Shia

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Andariel Halo:

From what I hear, the wiki is notoriously unreliable, and it doesn't specify anywhere whether you the player can become the Shia Caliph who rises, or if it even happens if you play as a Shia

the event can happen to sunnis, and you can also take a decision to become the shia caliph, if none exists and there is not a shia caliph invasion(the event) going on.

to create it, you must be independant, or all leiges above you must be the shia if you are a vassal. it's a lot easier if you have the sayyid trait, then all you need is 1000 piety. otherwise you'll have to hold specified counties, plus have 1000 piety if you do not have the mizra trait.

[Andariel Halo]

Originally posted by MASTER RENEGADE:

Originally posted by Andariel Halo:

From what I hear, the wiki is notoriously unreliable, and it doesn't specify anywhere whether you the player can become the Shia Caliph who rises, or if it even happens if you play as a Shia

. A Shia child leader with the Quick and Sayyid traits appears holding the duchy-tier titular title "Pretender Shia Caliphate"; the CB is "Shia Caliphate Rising in [kingdom]"

That doesn't answer either thing I mentioned

[Surimi]

The player can become the Shia caliph, but they won't get the event troops or epic ruler traits of the "rise of the Shia" event. Also, the player creating the Shia caliphate prevents the event from occuring.

I always say if you're looking for a really difficult political game, try starting as the Fatimid Emir of Damascus in 867 and try to become the Shia caliph and survive. It's not impossible, because the bonus from Sayyid counteracts the effects of religious differences so most sunnis won't hate you too much. The danger is mostly having your titles revoked if the sunni caliph decides he doesn't like you.

[Thundercracker]

Originally posted by Andariel Halo:

Originally posted by MASTER RENEGADE:

That doesn't answer either thing I mentioned

i was editing, sorry.