Abyssinian Empire, requires Egypt?

[social]

I started Old Gods campaign as the jewish small dutchy near abyssinia, and now I have Kingdoms of abyssinia and Nubia, but I can't form Abyssinian empire. I read somewhere that those two are the de jour- kingdoms that are required to form it, but it also requires kingdom of Egypt? I wonder why is that, and why isn't it listed in de jour-kingdom requirements...

(Ok, probably reading a history book would solve this)

But, is this really true, and you need to form Egypt too completely?

[_DaWe_]

Yes, you need to hold the kingdom title of Egypt as well. If you search for a title and hover the cursor over the greyed out create button, you can see the creation conditions.

[Jirki88]

It's pretty weird, considering the Kingdom of Egypt is de jure Arabian Empire, and historically the Ethiopian (Abyssinian) Empire never held Egypt.

[Ezralea]

Most empires in the game require you to hold three kingdom titles. The Abyssinian title only covers two so it requires you to also hold Egypt, Italia is required to hold not only Italy but also Sicily and any other kingdom, and Mali has to hold Mauretania (and I believe that's it). Yeah, it's random and arbitrary.

EDIT: Just checked while playing a game, for Mali you have to hold Mali, Mauretania, and another kingdom title. Which makes Carpathia the only two kingdom empire.

[Surimi]

Yeah.. Just conquering Abyssinia and Nubia would be a pretty easy requirement for founding an Empire.

Historically, the best explanation is probably that (in game terms rather than nomeclature) Abyssinia was never an Empire anyway. If you scroll through the possible starting dates, you'll see that Abyssinia is always a kingdom. The hypothetical Empire of Abyssinia, like almost all the Empires in game, represents a possible "what if" rather than a historical fact.

Egypt makes sense in the sense of uniting the Ethiopean Orthodox and Egyptian Coptic churches (since Miaphysitism is in game treated as a single thing).

[social]

I see. Thank you everybody.