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.siiimon Oct 28, 2015 @ 4:37am
Restore Roman Empire/Mend Great Schism
I'm Emperor of the HRE right now and have conquered most of western and central europa. now i'm looking for a goal, i can pursue without starting a new game...

i already restored the RE once as the byzantine emperor, now i want to try it as the HRE... is that possible? and can i mend the great schism as a catholic?

i've checked the guides you can find online, but somehow they all lack info on the HRE/Catholics mending the schism :-\
Last edited by .siiimon; Oct 28, 2015 @ 4:37am
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FMAylward Oct 28, 2015 @ 4:45am 
I do not belive there is anything special about doing it, its simplely a case of wipe them out.
.siiimon Oct 28, 2015 @ 5:14am 
unfortunately it seems to be a bit more complicated.

the ingame tooltips say, the holder of the RE has to be orthodox and that it can only be created by the byzantine emperor.

so the questions still are: can i mend the great schism as a catholic? and does that allow me to create the RE as a catholic? or would i have to switch to orthodox before/after mending the schism?
FMAylward Oct 28, 2015 @ 5:28am 
The only way to have a mended Schism as a Catholic is to effectively destroy the Orthodox religion.

If you want to convert and take that decision you are in effect destroying the Catholic religion and then reforming it from nothing, in fact I am not even sure if you can reform it afterwards.

Also I belive that at the time as far as Catholics were concerned the HRE is the RE.
Yaldabaoth Oct 28, 2015 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by FMAylward:
The only way to have a mended Schism as a Catholic is to effectively destroy the Orthodox religion.

If you want to convert and take that decision you are in effect destroying the Catholic religion and then reforming it from nothing, in fact I am not even sure if you can reform it afterwards.

Also I belive that at the time as far as Catholics were concerned the HRE is the RE.
At that time, the general populace didn't give a ♥♥♥♥ what country they lived in because they only knew their lord and their own village, MAYBE the next bigger city (10000+ people). Most were illiterate and had never seen a map before. They certainly didn't care about the finer points of Roman heritage.
FMAylward Oct 28, 2015 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by Rya:
At that time, the general populace didn't give a ♥♥♥♥ what country they lived in because they only knew their lord and their own village, MAYBE the next bigger city (10000+ people). Most were illiterate and had never seen a map before. They certainly didn't care about the finer points of Roman heritage.

Oh I am pretty sure the general populatio didn't give a dam, chances areeven nowdays the only reason peopel care about their country is because we are told told. I was meaning more with rulers and the pope though chances are most of them only had had an opinion because they were told to.
.siiimon Oct 28, 2015 @ 7:55am 
Originally posted by FMAylward:
The only way to have a mended Schism as a Catholic is to effectively destroy the Orthodox religion.

If you want to convert and take that decision you are in effect destroying the Catholic religion and then reforming it from nothing, in fact I am not even sure if you can reform it afterwards.

Also I belive that at the time as far as Catholics were concerned the HRE is the RE.

So you're saying that the decision to mend the schism does not appear for a catholic ruler?
has anyone here actually attempted this?

I know that if you mend the schmism as an orthodox catholicism becomes a herecy... i was just hoping it would work the other way around as well... i seem to remember having read that in a guide somewhere.
Last edited by .siiimon; Oct 28, 2015 @ 7:57am
Originally posted by 'zak:
So you're saying that the decision to mend the schism does not appear for a catholic ruler?
has anyone here actually attempted this?

I know that if you mend the schmism as an orthodox catholicism becomes a herecy... i was just hoping it would work the other way around as well... i seem to remember having read that in a guide somewhere.
It does not. However, you can be an orthodox ruler, mend the schism, convert to Catholicism and then spread it widely enough it becomes the main faith again.
.siiimon Oct 28, 2015 @ 10:17am 
Originally posted by Highly Heretical:
Originally posted by 'zak:
So you're saying that the decision to mend the schism does not appear for a catholic ruler?
has anyone here actually attempted this?

I know that if you mend the schmism as an orthodox catholicism becomes a herecy... i was just hoping it would work the other way around as well... i seem to remember having read that in a guide somewhere.
It does not. However, you can be an orthodox ruler, mend the schism, convert to Catholicism and then spread it widely enough it becomes the main faith again.

thanks! that sounds like a lot of work......
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