Too expensive for new players

[Przemyśl]

I like eu4 and I wanna buy CK2. But it's too expensive with all dlc. The DLC is 5 times more expensive than a game. The game becomes more expensive every year. Paradox need some discount for new players. Nobody wanna play without DLC.

[Losk Osmanthus 路渐秋凉]

catch up winter sales.

but tbh, I'm a little bit coin shy too.

Still, CK2 is sort of monopoly in terms of Dynasty Role play.

There is just no other competitor.

[Nehebsis]

CKII is perfectly enjoyable without DLC. It would also be pretty stupid to buy CKII + all the DLC without even knowing if you will end up liking it, DLC's can't be refunded. A lot of the DLC aren't expensions and mearly eye-candy (more unite sprites, portraits, music, ships, dynastic shields, etc...)

So here's what you do; Buy base game, play it and if you enjoy it pick a few expansions up every time there is a sale.

[rinku]

Look around for physical copies on sale, too. I picked up the "Gold Pack" (Base game, Ruler Designer and a few cosmetic DLCs) for AUD$14 locally.

Bided my time then a few weeks later Humble had everything up to Charlemagne 80% off.

[Svenijesus]

Actually DLC can be refunded within 48 hours i believe it is. I bought horse lords and found i didn't enjoy it without any other dlc so refunded it with the intent to buy quite a few of the major dlcs with that money when the next discount is (i missed the october 1st sale)

[Jet]

need the sale between winter and summer already...

[CrUsHeR]

The game is definitely worth its money if you get it on sale bundled with (almost) all the DLCs.
Bought that recently, there are just 2 major DLC missing namely Charlemagne and Horse Lords but you can certainly live without them.
I also bought Way Of Life separately but i think that does more harm than it enhances the gameplay, mostly because of the excessive Seduction Focus everyone in your realm will soon have STDs and try to kill each other.


However the standalone price of the game with all DLCs is absolutely NOT worth it by any means. They really should move to another DLC policy, like new customers should get all the previous DLCs for the price of one just like you already do get during steam sales.

And what i find totally unacceptable is that the DLCs themselves are also further split into sub-DLCs, if you buy one (gameplay) DLC you also have to buy the music/clothing/units/portraits separately.

[Ronnie Glyndŵr]

DLC is deffently worth it, I own all of it and the game has been around 17 pence (GBP) an hour.

[Visi]

It goes on sale all the time. If you miss them, it's your own fault.

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

And what i find totally unacceptable is that the DLCs themselves are also further split into sub-DLCs, if you buy one (gameplay) DLC you also have to buy the music/clothing/units/portraits separately.

And if they were bundled together you'd have people complaining, too, accusing Paradox of forcing them to buy DLC they don't want. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Paradox separating cosmetic DLC from everything else so you have more options is unacceptable? Ridiculous.

[NewbieOne]

Try to get everything on a massive sale like -75% but only if you really want it. The game has very poor design and very poor AI right now, largely because of Paradox's post-release changes to the game's design and mechanics, largely because of staff rotations and inexperienced staff handling the game, without continuity or consistent vision. The visuals and sounds are great and the theme is lovely, but, inside, this game is a beta. It has duct tape all over it and things that were never finished or developed properly.

[Mentos]

Because of the imbalanced caused by AI having retinues while the player not being able to without having the Rome dlc it's a must have.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by Unforeseen:

Because of the imbalanced caused by AI having retinues while the player not being able to without having the Rome dlc it's a must have.

In that i can soothe your soul. Without the LoR DLC the AI won't have any retinues either.
Only if you had saved a game where the AI already had retinues, then it will still have them when you reload without LoR, but can't build any.

[Mentos]

They may have changed it then? When I first got Ck2 from humble bundle I didn't have the LoR DLC and the AI was shoving Retinues down my throat. This is what originally got me into the DLC mix.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by Unforeseen:

They may have changed it then? When I first got Ck2 from humble bundle I didn't have the LoR DLC and the AI was shoving Retinues down my throat. This is what originally got me into the DLC mix.

I say retro perception bias...or somesuch, but i see no reason to argue about it.

[Mentos]

We have to debate this!

[Exothermically Eclectic]

Originally posted by Unforeseen:

Because of the imbalanced caused by AI having retinues while the player not being able to without having the Rome dlc it's a must have.

Oh, but the player is much smarter than the AI. Retinues just balance it out. Why do you hate challenge?