If you want to make a perfect character what are the traits you want him to have?

[[OCe]Kagari]

Need suggestion for trait hunting

[Ananke]

Im pretty sure when you have a certain number of virtuous traits (the green ones) random events pop up that take them away from you, so i always focus on getting a combination of the best green ones as well as the best red ones, I'll list some good traits and bad traits i think are worth getting but this is just my opinion so take it with a grain of salt...

Normal traits I aim for -
- Brave
- Just
- Ambitious
- Gregarious
- Zealous (Only if my realm is mostly the same religion)

Virtue traits i aim for -
- Diligent
- Kind

Sinful Traits i aim for -
- Greedy
- Proud
- Wroth
- Lustful


Also some traits are given from birth, with the best being genius, so marry a genius to potentially have a genius child, i think the odds are like 5% per parent.

There is also the education trait given to each character which is given based on the education of the assigned guardian. Pick the best education of a particular skill you want, it will give +9 in that skill if its the top tier.

Also note that the best traits will also depend on what type of character you are trying to build, so if your trying to build a character with high intrigue my list would be completely wrong, i try to build a character that focuses on high martial and vassal opinion.

This focus is strong early to middle-late game. But when your managing a large empire and your vassals start to outnumber you in levies massively, i think a character that focuses on diplomacy and intrigue would be far stronger.

[Drainserker]

I go for traits similar to eclipsingpizza's list. A few changes though:

I aim for:
-Deceitful -this one the intrigue out weighs the diplomacy hit, imo
-Temperate -This is objectively better than nothing. And, of course, you don't want gluttonous.

I don't exactly aim for these, but will cheerfully get:
-Cruel
-Cannibal
-Impaler

I never try to get the kind trait. It hurts intrigue and personal combat.

Genetics mods are fun. The good genetic traits are genius, attractive, strong, and tall.

For education traits I usually go for Brilliant Strategist or Elusive Shadow. If you do not have a raiding culture, Midas Touched will help make up the gold.

[SkyCam]

Originally posted by eclipsingpizza:

Im pretty sure when you have a certain number of virtuous traits (the green ones) random events pop up that take them away from you

those events have nothing to do with virtue traits it has to do with total traits in general so once you have a certain amount of traits events trigger to lose them which the lost trait is random it tends to favor virtues

having the "limit" in traits doesnt disable events that give you traits it just triggers random events to remove traits

[Tohtori Leka]

It depends much on who you play as and in what kind of realm. There aren't many traits that are good in every situation. Mostly just the genetics and brave and diligent.

[Dremall]

Depends on the circumstances and the character. I don't ever want an intrigue character to have kind and honest. Whereas that intrigue character who is cruel, deceptive, cynical is ideal. My stewardship character who is diligent and greedy is good. Really depends on character and circumstances.

[CrUsHeR]

Ah yes, the chivalric ideals of a medieval king. Just, brave, diligent, patient, genius, brilliant strategist.... etc. pp

But then you look at how real politicians look like, for example the current US president:

- gluttonous
- greedy
- slothful
- wroth
- envious
- arbitrary
- craven
- cruel
- deceitful
- paranoid
- stubborn
- lunatic
- stressed
- slow
- dull
- uncouth


Would you play this character in CK2?

[UR ESTROGEN DEALER]

Originally posted by OCeKagari:

Need suggestion for trait hunting

The only traits worth picking are Attractive, Genius/Quick, and Strong.

These are the only traits that your family can inherit just by being born, any other trait needs to be acquired while growing up or during events in adulthood

Do note, that if you actually pick Attractive, Genius&Strong all for 1 character you're going to end up being a 60+ year old character stacked with more negative traits than positive to offset the tremendous cost.

Your best bet is picking 1 of the above and hoping your kids inherit it: I prefer Genius, but Strong is also good for the +health

It should also be noted that all the above have the same inheritance rate of 15% and will not be inherited by children pre-selected during character creation

[Malus]

Brilliant strategist
Genius
Strong
Attractice
Shrewd
Brawny
Born in the blurple
Groomed
Duelist
Renowned physician
Erudite
Ashari
Shieldmaiden
Saoshyant
Immortal
Vaishya
Shaivist
Crusader king.
Sympathy for religions
Erudite
Sagittarius
Haemoarch
Militant
Kowtow 3
Sea King/queen
Adventurer
Augustus
Cannibal
Varangian

And some additional character modifiers :
All bonuses from focuses
All martial choices for child of destiny
Genghis khan
Secret cult leader going public
Voice if Jesus but try to loose possessed after it to keep the modifier permanently.
Minor diety worship.


Holy warrior, way of dragon + all lodge traits. For leadership traits

I rarely focus on getting personality traits because they are oftentimes removed, but if you found a somewhat consistent way to keep them, my favorites would be (in descending order)

Diligent wroth ambitious brave

My perfect character would focus on getting martial, because there are potentially infinite artifacts that could boost all of the other stats but martial doesn't have one.

But it is very rng heavy to construct this perfect character.

[Lemilys]

Originally posted by CrUsHeR:

Ah yes, the chivalric ideals of a medieval king. Just, brave, diligent, patient, genius, brilliant strategist.... etc. pp

But then you look at how real politicians look like, for example the current US president:

- gluttonous
- greedy
- slothful
- wroth
- envious
- arbitrary
- craven
- cruel
- deceitful
- paranoid
- stubborn
- lunatic
- stressed
- slow
- dull
- uncouth


Would you play this character in CK2?

I want to upvote this so bad!!

To answer the question so i don't go off topic - I always like to aim for

Diligent
Brawny
Stubborn
wroth (if martial)
Patient (if not martial)
Zealous
Brave

I like to go for traits which have good stat boosts - zealous and diligent offer really good boosts to multiple stats so I really like these

OFC there is genius, quick, strong but those are generally more genetic or random at birth

[mr_bman]

These are the traits you want to avoid for a commander -

Wroth or Aggressive leader enables Reckless Charge.
Craven or Organizer enables Timid Advance.
Lisp or Stutter enables Confused Orders.
Slothful or Shy enables Hesitant Commander.
Cruel enables Charging Through Own Skirmishers.

Traits enabling good tactics are: Inspiring leader or Defensive leader enables Inspired Defense. Brave , Cavalry leader , or Aggressive leader enables Heroic Counter-Charge. Shrewd , Quick , Genius , or Trickster enables Clever Ambush.

The higher your martial stat is, the less likely it is of bad traits kicking in during a battle. Also increases the chance of a good trait enabling a good tactic.

[Malus]

Originally posted by mr_bman:

These are the traits you want to avoid for a commander -

Wroth or Aggressive leader enables Reckless Charge.
Craven or Organizer enables Timid Advance.
Lisp or Stutter enables Confused Orders.
Slothful or Shy enables Hesitant Commander.
Cruel enables Charging Through Own Skirmishers.

Traits enabling good tactics are: Inspiring leader or Defensive leader enables Inspired Defense. Brave , Cavalry leader , or Aggressive leader enables Heroic Counter-Charge. Shrewd , Quick , Genius , or Trickster enables Clever Ambush.

The higher your martial stat is, the less likely it is of bad traits kicking in during a battle. Also increases the chance of a good trait enabling a good tactic.

Sometimes even "good" tactics are bad, but probably only regarding specialized flanks like retinues or mercenaries.

I also think that the better tactics the higher the martial only works to a certain level, and i think the max is 16.