Fastest way to get a ruler killed?

[Paradoxical]

I just did something very stupid at the end of my game...and it's going to ruin literally everything I've worked for in the last 40 hours.

I need this ruler to die immediately, within a month.

How can I get this done without cheating, I'm in ironman.

[Teralitha]

raise a levy and put your ruler in charge, and go someplace that has a deadly disease?

or make everyone hate you so much that you get murdered.

start a war with somoene but only fight to lose and have your ruler in every battle. They will eventually die.


So what did you do?

[TyborPL]

If a ruler is depressed you can commit his suicide (RMB on portrait)....

[Teralitha]

Or you could give away all your land to vassals so you are super weak and sooner or later they will put you out of your misery.

[Ouzoman]

I assume you don't really need him to die but you need his heir to become the new big guy... If so, just revoke some vassel's title and make him revolt... then look at the surrender conditions. If you surrender to your vassel, your current ruler gets demoted and the heir becomes the new #1. Easiest way to get rid of a slow inbred dwarf when his son is a genius attractive strong god-like guy.

[Malthusians]

Find someone who hates you, has decent intrigue and diplomacy, has a lot of vices and nothing like content, kind, honest etc., has a lot of friends, and ideally has plotted to kill you in the past. Make them your spymaster. If your wife has good intrigue, divorce her to lower your state intrige even more.

I would say piss off more courtiers with high intrigue (grant/revoke honorary titles repeatedly) so they'll join the plot, but overdoing that can be dangerous because some of that bad opinion of you will carry over to your heir for a year or so. First year of a new ruler is hard enough, don't want to have to spend it in hiding...

[Paradoxical]

Originally posted by Ouzoman:

I assume you don't really need him to die but you need his heir to become the new big guy... If so, just revoke some vassel's title and make him revolt... then look at the surrender conditions. If you surrender to your vassel, your current ruler gets demoted and the heir becomes the new #1. Easiest way to get rid of a slow inbred dwarf when his son is a genius attractive strong god-like guy.

Thank you. I guess I've realized that I've never lost a vassal rebellion.

I was trying to get him killed by having him battle people but it wouldn't work.

I was trying to clear out my prisoners since I had over 160. I started executing those that been prisoners for more than 40 years...I didn't know this gave you tyrant rep hit since the tooltip says no one will object, enemy country etc. So yeah, started killing them...-220 Tyrant penalty seconds later I had every vassal on the indy faction....why doesn't it warn you about this. It literally almost ruined this game.

[Random]

In Conclave: execution council tends to not like you killing prisoners after the war. the prisoner could be some scrub of no worth to the enemy, however your pious goody twoshoes council gets all cut about war crimes and mass murder.

if it's not conclave, then you shouldn't take a tyranny hit unless they belong to a newly acquired vassal (ie: you acquired a county via dejure war and the county owner was vasallized as opposed to conquering and making the county part of your demesne)

[Rowley]

There is no way to get your ruler killed that quickly.

[Bandiitti]

Originally posted by Oni:

Originally posted by Ouzoman:

I assume you don't really need him to die but you need his heir to become the new big guy... If so, just revoke some vassel's title and make him revolt... then look at the surrender conditions. If you surrender to your vassel, your current ruler gets demoted and the heir becomes the new #1. Easiest way to get rid of a slow inbred dwarf when his son is a genius attractive strong god-like guy.

Thank you. I guess I've realized that I've never lost a vassal rebellion.

I was trying to get him killed by having him battle people but it wouldn't work.

I was trying to clear out my prisoners since I had over 160. I started executing those that been prisoners for more than 40 years...I didn't know this gave you tyrant rep hit since the tooltip says no one will object, enemy country etc. So yeah, started killing them...-220 Tyrant penalty seconds later I had every vassal on the indy faction....why doesn't it warn you about this. It literally almost ruined this game.

If you have -220 tyrant anyway can't you just try to imprison all your vassals and fight the ones that get away? Don't know how that would work, never had that situation :D

[Paradoxical]

To answer the question of what I did to overcome this, I used Ouzoman suggestion. I tried to revoke the title of the strongest king that hates me and of course he refuses and raises his flag in rebellion.

I then simply surrendered, the emperor was disposed and the heir took over....man I had no clue that's how it worked. Always something new to learn.

[domuka]

Originally posted by Oni:

To answer the question of what I did to overcome this, I used Ouzoman suggestion. I tried to revoke the title of the strongest king that hates me and of course he refuses and raises his flag in rebellion.

I then simply surrendered, the emperor was disposed and the heir took over....man I had no clue that's how it worked. Always something new to learn.

you want to know what sucks about that though? you lose all of your cash as it goes with the former ruler. try having over 100k in gold just leave with the ruler.... sad times, friend.

[Rowley]

Originally posted by domuka:

you want to know what sucks about that though? you lose all of your cash as it goes with the former ruler. try having over 100k in gold just leave with the ruler.... sad times, friend.

Which can be worked around by simply giving your heir gold beforehand. It'd probably take ages and it would be incredibly tedious. But hey, the abdication method is an exploit so it doesn't matter as much anyway.

[domuka]

Originally posted by Cloaked Destiny:

Originally posted by domuka:

you want to know what sucks about that though? you lose all of your cash as it goes with the former ruler. try having over 100k in gold just leave with the ruler.... sad times, friend.

Which can be worked around by simply giving your heir gold beforehand. It'd probably take ages and it would be incredibly tedious. But hey, the abdication method is an exploit so it doesn't matter as much anyway.

it took me about one hour (took a few breaks of 20 or so minutes so in reality, about 3 hours) to do that. i had found another work around, since i play in seniority exclusively as a feudal, after that ;)

[Ouzoman]

Originally posted by domuka:

you want to know what sucks about that though? you lose all of your cash as it goes with the former ruler. try having over 100k in gold just leave with the ruler.... sad times, friend.

Yeah but as the mean man you are, after you overthrow your beloved Daddy... simply make sure your current new shining knight is still his heir... then either kill bad old daddy the old way... (which should be easy given the -220 tyranny 'bonus) or spy on him (intrigue focus) until the 'he should get killed event pops up' then wait till nature takes her turn and... there is all the delicious money back in your hands again.