Crusader Kings II

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Mr. Cobb Aug 10, 2016 @ 11:51pm
What is the best strategy to forming Isreal?
I bought the sons of Abraham to do this. What nation should I attempt this with, and what should my general strategy be?
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Colonel Martyr Aug 11, 2016 @ 4:24am 
In general, it really doesn't matter what your starting county will be, it all amounts to one thing: CK2 Hardmode. Being a Jew and trying to form Israel will be one of the toughest things you can hope to do. It's not impossible, it's just very difficult. Apparently, from what I've read, it's also a pain when you form it because Muslims and Christians both will happily Jihaad/Crusade you.
Neshamah Aug 11, 2016 @ 4:45am 
Originally posted by Colonel Martyr:
In general, it really doesn't matter what your starting county will be, it all amounts to one thing: CK2 Hardmode. Being a Jew and trying to form Israel will be one of the toughest things you can hope to do. It's not impossible, it's just very difficult. Apparently, from what I've read, it's also a pain when you form it because Muslims and Christians both will happily Jihaad/Crusade you.

This !!! ^_^

I can attest first-hand that forming the Kingdom of Israel as a Jew (from a Jewish start) is one of the more difficult scenarios in CK II. If I am ever able to do it (Very Hard, Ironman) I'll let you know. :steamfacepalm:

Edit: It is fairly easy as a Christian, though. Just win the Crusade. :steamhappy:
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Bobby B Aug 11, 2016 @ 5:35am 
Start as the Tulunids, send your son to be tutored by a jew
Neshamah Aug 11, 2016 @ 8:18am 
Originally posted by Ares:
Start as the Tulunids, send your son to be tutored by a jew

The Jewish starts are Khazaria 1066, and Axum/Semien 769/867. All others require conversion.
Rowley Aug 11, 2016 @ 8:22am 
Other than starting as a massive Empire or Kingdom and conquering Semien to convert (with a decision only available if you have the Rajas of India DLC) or an heir tutored by a Jew, you're locked in to the Khazars and Semien like Neshamah states.

There aren't really a whole lot of ways to do it and have a good chance of survival. The way I did it was through swearing fealty to Abyssinia and conquering titles while under their banner and later forming a faction to take over the Kingdom. After that it was a matter of waiting for a good opportunity to start chipping away the Abbasids and maintain realm stability. It's a serious exercise in patience and luck, to say the least--because if the united muslims decide to start gunning for you, there isn't much defense for it---and starting as the Zunbils isn't much different in many respects.
Colonel Martyr Aug 11, 2016 @ 8:22am 
Originally posted by Neshamah:
Originally posted by Ares:
Start as the Tulunids, send your son to be tutored by a jew

The Jewish starts are Khazaria 1066, and Axum/Semien 769/867. All others require conversion.
And fair warning. You better move fast if you pick Abyssinia cause it's quite literally a matter of time before the Abblobsid try to kick your teeth in. So get powerful fast and save up for mercs. You'll need em.
Bobby B Aug 11, 2016 @ 9:53am 
Originally posted by Neshamah:
Originally posted by Ares:
Start as the Tulunids, send your son to be tutored by a jew

The Jewish starts are Khazaria 1066, and Axum/Semien 769/867. All others require conversion.
I know, and from experience, the best way to form Israel is start as the Tulunids and convert.
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