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DarkMjolnir Sep 13, 2016 @ 8:23pm
Claim casus belli not working?
I'm playing a game as Tuscany. I seized Lombardy after fabricating a claim, but Cremona was still independent (within HRE) and I had de jure claim on it. But I couldn't declare war on him. I decided to shrug that off since there were other things to worry about, but now I have fabricated a claim on capua (completely independent county) and I can't declare war on it. They aren't tributaries or anything. I don't understand why it wouldn't work. It says I have no casus belli...but I have a claim!

Anyone else running into this issue?
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Admiral Obvious Sep 13, 2016 @ 8:30pm 
Which DLC do you have, and do you have a screenshot of the tool tip you get when hovering over the declare button(s)?
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DarkMjolnir Sep 13, 2016 @ 8:40pm 
Originally posted by Admiral Obvious:
Which DLC do you have, and do you have a screenshot of the tool tip you get when hovering over the declare button(s)?

I have pretty much all the DLCs....how do you post a screenshot here?
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Admiral Obvious Sep 13, 2016 @ 8:48pm 
Take the shot. Upload it, go to it on the site once it's loaded up. The share button should provide you with a URL to copy and paste.

Like this (for a different game, since I've got no shots uploaded yet).

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=760933106
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al_x_ator2411 Sep 13, 2016 @ 11:22pm 
If something is "within HRE" it's not indipendent. Try and see if there is a casus belli againt the Keiser for Cremona.
And are you sure the Claim on Capua is fabricated (as in acquired by your chancelor for lots of money) and not inherited in some way?
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DarkMjolnir Sep 14, 2016 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by al_x_ator2411:
If something is "within HRE" it's not indipendent. Try and see if there is a casus belli againt the Keiser for Cremona.
And are you sure the Claim on Capua is fabricated (as in acquired by your chancelor for lots of money) and not inherited in some way?
I know that it's not technically independent. I'm Tuscany, so I'm a member of the HRE, and I should be able to declare war on my fellow vassals.

Positive. I was playing as Mathilda DiCanossa, and I don't start out inheriting that title.

However, I continued playing after I posted this and now I'm her son, but I still have a claim.



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DarkMjolnir Sep 14, 2016 @ 5:27am 
Originally posted by Admiral Obvious:
Take the shot. Upload it, go to it on the site once it's loaded up. The share button should provide you with a URL to copy and paste.

Like this (for a different game, since I've got no shots uploaded yet).

I can't find the screenshot uploader. I'll try finding it again later today when I have more time.
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BicycleMan Sep 14, 2016 @ 5:35am 
non-agression pact?
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VeronicaCardican Sep 14, 2016 @ 5:55am 
If you are both direct vassals of the HRE emperor and conclave DLC is active, then the enforcement of realm peace would render you unable to declare war on each other.

Without conclave that would be dependant on crown authority in the HRE.

Also, just to tick off that checkbox: if the claim is a weak claim, it can only be pressed under certain circunstances (e.g. regency or female title holder).

You did say that the claim was fabricated. Those are strong claims but they are also not inheritable so you would have lost it upon succession unless you declared war over that claim before.
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DarkMjolnir Sep 14, 2016 @ 3:15pm 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763715066

I can't show you what is was like when I was Mathilda, but the character in question is her son. How he inherited the fabricated claim, I don't know, but as Mathilda I couldn't declare ware on Capua even though it was a strong claim when it was fabricated.

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DarkMjolnir Sep 14, 2016 @ 3:20pm 
Originally posted by GIRAFFE:
non-agression pact?

No, and I wasn't related to or married into his family in anyway. Also, it said "No valid Casus belli" meaning it said I didn't have a reason to declare.
Last edited by DarkMjolnir; Sep 14, 2016 @ 3:21pm
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Varainger Sep 14, 2016 @ 3:36pm 
Originally posted by DarkMjolnir:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=763715066

I can't show you what is was like when I was Mathilda, but the character in question is her son. How he inherited the fabricated claim, I don't know, but as Mathilda I couldn't declare ware on Capua even though it was a strong claim when it was fabricated.

It's a claim on the duchy title, not on the county and the duchy doesn't exist in the 1066 bookmarks. So unless it was created in your game, you have the wrong CB.

The Cremona issue is a bug in 2.6x, where you can't declare a dejure war on one-county vassals of the same liege.
Last edited by Varainger; Sep 14, 2016 @ 3:41pm
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DarkMjolnir Sep 14, 2016 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Varainger:

It's a claim on the duchy title, not on the county and the duchy doesn't exist in the 1066 bookmarks. So unless it was created in your game, you have the wrong CB.

The Cremona issue is a bug in 2.6x, where you can't declare a dejure war on one-county vassals of the same liege.

Ah, that clears things up, thanks. For some reason I always thought you'd only fabricate a claim if someone owned it.
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