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Commander_31 Jun 24, 2022 @ 3:03pm
Tutoring 3 Children (Bug?)
So here is what happened: I was tutoring 2 children with my player character when at some point i saw that one of them is not in the tutoring slot anymore. I found this a little weird since i did not got any message that the child died or something (it was not mine).
So i searched for the child to see what happened and saw that it still has me as its tutor, even though the childs picture is not in the slot anymore. Moreover, i could then tutor another child, so i have 3 now. Although i eventually gave the 3rd child to someone else to tutor because i feared that its a bug and the 3rd child wont get any lessons from me (although i cannot confirm this)

Reloading the game did not solve the problem, and eventually i had the same thing happening again with other children. As far as i can tell it only affects my player character, AI does not seem to have that issue.

So what up with that? Anyone know?
Originally posted by Alex:
Originally posted by Accurate Vowel:
There is no issue. By default, you are responsible for the education of your own children. If you have no court tutor, you are also responsible for the education of children with no guardian in your court. Finally, you can have two wards who would otherwise be educated by someone else.
Good job missing the point of the question completely.

To OP, yes, this does sometimes happen. I have the inkling that it is caused by a premature decision to tutor someone (before they turn 6) or by their parent moving to a different court (involuntary, like with marriage). Despite it being a bug, the tutoring itself does work as intended. However, on rare occassions, the game decides to fix this, and unassigns one of the wards.
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Accurate Vowel Jun 24, 2022 @ 3:29pm 
There is no issue. By default, you are responsible for the education of your own children. If you have no court tutor, you are also responsible for the education of children with no guardian in your court. Finally, you can have two wards who would otherwise be educated by someone else.
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Alex Jun 25, 2022 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Accurate Vowel:
There is no issue. By default, you are responsible for the education of your own children. If you have no court tutor, you are also responsible for the education of children with no guardian in your court. Finally, you can have two wards who would otherwise be educated by someone else.
Good job missing the point of the question completely.

To OP, yes, this does sometimes happen. I have the inkling that it is caused by a premature decision to tutor someone (before they turn 6) or by their parent moving to a different court (involuntary, like with marriage). Despite it being a bug, the tutoring itself does work as intended. However, on rare occassions, the game decides to fix this, and unassigns one of the wards.
Commander_31 Jun 25, 2022 @ 5:03pm 
Originally posted by Accurate Vowel:
There is no issue. By default, you are responsible for the education of your own children. If you have no court tutor, you are also responsible for the education of children with no guardian in your court. Finally, you can have two wards who would otherwise be educated by someone else.


No, what i meant is that i have 2 wards and one of them suddenly disappeared from my ward-slot. But when i clicked on the information of the kid that disappeared, it still had me as tutor (guardian?)

So i have an extra slot for a ward which now (apparently) allows me to tutor 3 children in total.
Commander_31 Jun 25, 2022 @ 5:18pm 
Originally posted by Alex:
To OP, yes, this does sometimes happen. I have the inkling that it is caused by a premature decision to tutor someone (before they turn 6) or by their parent moving to a different court (involuntary, like with marriage). Despite it being a bug, the tutoring itself does work as intended. However, on rare occassions, the game decides to fix this, and unassigns one of the wards.

Just so i am clear, you are saying the child still gets lessons from me even though it disappeared from my ward-slot, basically giving me an extra slot?

Also, is there no point in assigning a tutor to a child before it reaches the age of 6? I always assumed it would lose some of its potential, so i give them tutors right after birth.
Accurate Vowel Jun 25, 2022 @ 5:38pm 
Originally posted by Commander_31:
No, what i meant is that i have 2 wards and one of them suddenly disappeared from my ward-slot. But when i clicked on the information of the kid that disappeared, it still had me as tutor (guardian?)
Check the kid's profile. If you are their liege and their parents are not in your court and you do not have a court tutor, everything is working as intended. If their liege is someone else or at least one of their parents is in your court or you have a court tutor, you have hit a bug.
Last edited by Accurate Vowel; Jun 25, 2022 @ 5:38pm
Commander_31 Jun 25, 2022 @ 9:37pm 
Originally posted by Accurate Vowel:
Check the kid's profile. If you are their liege and their parents are not in your court and you do not have a court tutor, everything is working as intended. If their liege is someone else or at least one of their parents is in your court or you have a court tutor, you have hit a bug.

I dont have the Conclave DLC, so i dont have a court tutor. The kid was a vassal-duke of mine which i personally wanted to tutor. The father was dead and the mother was at his court (i believe). The other child i tutored was my heir.

If this is intended i dont get the point of it. The only thing that changed is that i now can tutor 3 kids, but one of them will not be displayed in my profile as a ward, which means i have to search for him manually if i wanna check out his progress.

Its also the first time i noticed this issue and twice in a row too, so it seems to be a bug rather than a feature to me.
Last edited by Commander_31; Jun 25, 2022 @ 9:40pm
Yxklyx Jun 25, 2022 @ 9:55pm 
Yes, it's a bug - seen that a few times.

I think that if your ward inherits a title they remain your ward but don't show up under your ward list, allowing you to tutor 3 kids at the same time. At least that's one case I've seen.
Last edited by Yxklyx; Jun 25, 2022 @ 9:57pm
Alex Jun 26, 2022 @ 12:25am 
Originally posted by Commander_31:
Just so i am clear, you are saying the child still gets lessons from me even though it disappeared from my ward-slot, basically giving me an extra slot?
Well, this bugs occurs seldom, but when it did, the child in question actually received traits. Consider this fluke as a minor exploit.
Originally posted by Commander_31:
Also, is there no point in assigning a tutor to a child before it reaches the age of 6? I always assumed it would lose some of its potential, so i give them tutors right after birth.
I'm not saying that you can't, on the contrary, you should. However, the game considers 6 to be the appropriate age, and will even warn you about any 6 years-olds of you dynasty that lack a tutor. Anyway, I don't even know what causes this bug, those were mere guesses. It might be something else. The bug is simply too rare to understand the cause.
Commander_31 Jun 28, 2022 @ 6:34pm 
Thanks for the answers :) Seems my save is corrupted because it keeps happening. Even when my character is a child, i eventually disappear from my guardians ward-slot.
But i had bigger challenges in this game so i can live with it ^^
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