What should I do with an imprisoned vassal?

[JD01]

So my vassal was plotting against me and my spymaster found out about it, so I had him arrested. Now I don't know what I should do. Is there any way to secure his loyalty/make him stop plotting against me? Is there any way to revoke his ownership of the county and transfer it to someone else in my court? I just have no idea what to do.

He also has a son who is his heir. Maybe I should plot to kill him, then have the earl executed, leaving a power vaccum? I have no idea. I'm new to this game lol.

[Azunai]

as long as he is your prisoner, he can't plot or faction against you. so simply keeping imprisoned vassals locked up for the rest of their life is always an option worth considering.

you can revoke titles if your realm has the corresponding law ("limited crown authority" in the base game, or specifically the "title revocation" law if you play with the conclave DLC)

if your character has a legal justification to revoke the title (your character has a personal claim on the title or the vassal is a traitor or something), then your other vassals will accept the title revocation. if you don't have a valid reason, you can still revoke the title, but all your vassals will get a -15 opinion penalty for 5 years (which stacks with itself if you revoke more then 1 title)

[quarre]

Hold him imprisoned if you want him alive or throw him in oubliette if you want him dead, but dont wanna tyranny debuff from vassals. You can revoke his territories and titles if law allows revoke, but you need a valid reason or tyranny debuff comes.

After some time in jail he can ask you to free him. One of options if free him in cost of Favor, which is good.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

hard to say without seeing the vassal in question.

If he has an heir that looks decent, just toss him in the oubliette and let him die.

If he's pretty decent stat-trait-wise, analyze why he's trying to plot against you and see if you can fix it.

What was he trying to do?


Since you're new it's quite possible that you have territory you aren't supposed to and he's simply trying to get what should be his.

It's fairly common for newbie's to hand out territory poorly or get too greedy and hold territory they shouldn't.

Which leads to A LOT of plots and factioning.

[JD01]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

hard to say without seeing the vassal in question.

If he has an heir that looks decent, just toss him in the oubliette and let him die.

If he's pretty decent stat-trait-wise, analyze why he's trying to plot against you and see if you can fix it.

What was he trying to do?


Since you're new it's quite possible that you have territory you aren't supposed to and he's simply trying to get what should be his.

It's fairly common for newbie's to hand out territory poorly or get too greedy and hold territory they shouldn't.

Which leads to A LOT of plots and factioning.

I had a claim on the territory. Doesn't that mean that I'm allowed to take it?

[barracuda-rostigraben]

Originally posted by JD1545:

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

hard to say without seeing the vassal in question.

If he has an heir that looks decent, just toss him in the oubliette and let him die.

If he's pretty decent stat-trait-wise, analyze why he's trying to plot against you and see if you can fix it.

What was he trying to do?


Since you're new it's quite possible that you have territory you aren't supposed to and he's simply trying to get what should be his.

It's fairly common for newbie's to hand out territory poorly or get too greedy and hold territory they shouldn't.

Which leads to A LOT of plots and factioning.

I had a claim on the territory. Doesn't that mean that I'm allowed to take it?

If the game says you can take it without invoking tyranny, then yes.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

You can take it...but it doesn't nessecarily mean you should.


But there's a lot of factors in if it's the right or wrong decision right now.

If you have the demense limit, then sure, it's probably not gonna be issue in the short term, since that means more raw power and more options.

But You could also be spreading yourself too thin, if it's a province futher away from your heart-land.

It could also cause issues if it's the de jure territory of another of your vassals, that they're supposed to own which will just result in them factioning or plotting against you to get it back.

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by lonenaco:

Hold him imprisoned if you want him alive or throw him in oubliette if you want him dead, but dont wanna tyranny debuff from vassals. You can revoke his territories and titles if law allows revoke, but you need a valid reason or tyranny debuff comes.

After some time in jail he can ask you to free him. One of options if free him in cost of Favor, which is good.

Which DLC introduced the Favor dynamic?

[kaiyl_kariashi]

Conclave. It overhauls laws/education/vassals/ council mechanics.

[OldMemes.biz]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

Conclave. It overhauls laws/education/vassals/ council mechanics.

Ahh ok. I'm lazy and STILL have not gotten anything Conclave and later.

[Sandvich]

Originally posted by JD1545:

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

hard to say without seeing the vassal in question.

If he has an heir that looks decent, just toss him in the oubliette and let him die.

If he's pretty decent stat-trait-wise, analyze why he's trying to plot against you and see if you can fix it.

What was he trying to do?


Since you're new it's quite possible that you have territory you aren't supposed to and he's simply trying to get what should be his.

It's fairly common for newbie's to hand out territory poorly or get too greedy and hold territory they shouldn't.

Which leads to A LOT of plots and factioning.

I had a claim on the territory. Doesn't that mean that I'm allowed to take it?

If you can take it without tyranny, take it right away. Then throw the guy in the oubliette or execute if you can. Give it to someone who's young (30 or under) and make sure he likes you and has the content trait.