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Legostyle03 Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:40am
Why can't i betrothe my son?
I'm trying to betrothe my son to a princess in England, but he doesn't show up among the people i can betrothe. Why? He is not married or betrothed.
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gregoryk64 Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:44am 
The ruler who approves the betrothal for the princess likely will not accept the offer, so the princess will not show up on the list of candidates. Try to do it directly. Left click on the princess' portrait and choose "arrange betrothal". You can then find out of they will agree to it.

Reasons for refusing a betrothal/marriage could include that you or your son do not have a high enough status (titles, prestige), your son is ill or unlikely to produce children, the princess is an heir and wants a matrilineal marriage, or the ever popular "political concerns". This last means that the target realm of the betrothal likely has claims or designs on your own territories and they do not want to enter into the NAP that would result from the marriage.
Last edited by gregoryk64; Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:55am
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Legostyle03 Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by gregoryk64:
The ruler who approves the betrothal for the princess likely will not accept the offer, so the princess will not show up on the list of candidates. Try to do it directly. Left click on the princess' portrait and choose "arrange betrothal". You can then find out of they will agree to it.
This is what i'm trying, but he straight up just ain't on the list.
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gregoryk64 Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by Legostyle03:
Originally posted by gregoryk64:
The ruler who approves the betrothal for the princess likely will not accept the offer, so the princess will not show up on the list of candidates. Try to do it directly. Left click on the princess' portrait and choose "arrange betrothal". You can then find out of they will agree to it.
This is what i'm trying, but he straight up just ain't on the list.
Could it be the princess is already betrothed to someone else?
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Omniconda Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:58am 
maybe hes your wifes dynasty and she wont allow it. i had this happen too when my wife and i both had seperate holdings and she wouldnt let me betroth our son as he was heir to both our lands.

Then England vasselized her because i refused to help :) if she had just let her son marry the pox ridden princess of England we would have been fine
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gregoryk64 Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:59am 
Wait... your SON is not on the list? That is something different. That means he is likely in someone else's court. Is his mother someone who holds her own title (Countess, Duchess)? Then the son could be in her court and you can't arrange his marriage. You would have to get him to your court. Unless he is of age I don't know of any way to do that unless the mother loses her title and comes to your court with him. If he is of age you can try to invite him, but he may refuse.
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Legostyle03 Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:05am 
Originally posted by gregoryk64:
Originally posted by Legostyle03:
This is what i'm trying, but he straight up just ain't on the list.
Could it be the princess is already betrothed to someone else?
No, i already checked for that.

Originally posted by Omnious:
maybe hes your wifes dynasty and she wont allow it. i had this happen too when my wife and i both had seperate holdings and she wouldnt let me betroth our son as he was heir to both our lands.

Then England vasselized her because i refused to help :) if she had just let her son marry the pox ridden princess of England we would have been fine
Nope, he is just her son.

Originally posted by gregoryk64:
Wait... your SON is not on the list? That is something different. That means he is likely in someone else's court. Is his mother someone who holds her own title (Countess, Duchess)? Then the son could be in her court and you can't arrange his marriage. You would have to get him to your court. Unless he is of age I don't know of any way to do that unless the mother loses her title and comes to your court with him. If he is of age you can try to invite him, but he may refuse.
He is of age, but his mother holds no land. He is Earl, if that makes a difference.
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Not an Orphan Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:20am 
You can't marry him or betroth him if he have a title of his own.
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Not an Orphan Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:21am 
You can offer him someone to marry or betroth, but that someone you offer need be in your court.
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Legostyle03 Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:21am 
Originally posted by RustyFork21:
You can't marry him or betroth him if he have a title of his own.
Really? That sucks.
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Not an Orphan Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:22am 
Originally posted by Legostyle03:
Originally posted by RustyFork21:
You can't marry him or betroth him if he have a title of his own.
Really? That sucks.
Yeah, he is not in your house anymore.
His house, his rules my friend.
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Legostyle03 Jul 14, 2018 @ 5:25am 
Originally posted by RustyFork21:
Originally posted by Legostyle03:
Really? That sucks.
Yeah, he is not in your house anymore.
His house, his rules my friend.
Man, parenthood sucks.
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Jiks Jul 14, 2018 @ 6:29am 
I'm of the "never land your heir" philosophy so I can't test this but I thought they recently added a tick option to retain control over who close relatives marry.

I could easily be wrong about whether it applies here but thought it might be worth mentionning just in case ...
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Meewec Jul 14, 2018 @ 6:31am 
Originally posted by Jiks:
I'm of the "never land your heir" philosophy so I can't test this but I thought they recently added a tick option to retain control over who close relatives marry.

I could easily be wrong about whether it applies here but thought it might be worth mentionning just in case ...
Only heirs I ever land are if I'm playing a muslim and want someone besides my eldest
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that guy Jul 14, 2018 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Jiks:
I'm of the "never land your heir" philosophy so I can't test this but I thought they recently added a tick option to retain control over who close relatives marry.

I could easily be wrong about whether it applies here but thought it might be worth mentionning just in case ...
You can only stop them from marrying or betrothing themselves for a couple (5?) years after they become landed. You still need to have a potential marriage partner in your court in order to set up a marriage/betrothal for them.
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al_x_ator2411 Jul 14, 2018 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by that guy:
Originally posted by Jiks:
I'm of the "never land your heir" philosophy so I can't test this but I thought they recently added a tick option to retain control over who close relatives marry.

I could easily be wrong about whether it applies here but thought it might be worth mentionning just in case ...
You can only stop them from marrying or betrothing themselves for a couple (5?) years after they become landed. You still need to have a potential marriage partner in your court in order to set up a marriage/betrothal for them.
No, if you restrict their marriage they get a gold ring button and you can marry them to anyone as if you are marrying yourself or they are in your court. But it lasts for only 10 years. If he was landed since childhood then the time limit probably already passed. But the fatc he's still unmarried gives me hope.

But if the 10 years since landing have passed, forget princesses for now. Try inviting a suitable girl (good traits & family) in your court, suggest the marriage to him and he might accept. Otherwise he'll marry the first imbecile lowborn when he gets desperate.
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