can i change religion without cheats?

[gabriel_coqueirojm]

i want to change my religion but i dont know how. for example i have a sympathy for jews as trait being christian and i want to be a jew without cheats but i dont know how

[Beowulf]

Originally posted by Gabriel_CoqueiroRD:

i want to change my religion but i dont know how. for example i have a sympathy for jews as trait being christian and i want to be a jew without cheats but i dont know how

There are a couple of ways to do it, you either need a event to pop off giving you a opportunity such as when your court chaplin finding a herasy and trying to recruit you into it or a secret society trying to recruit you by giving a book. A more reliable way is to have your wife or your capital part of the religion you want to convert too and making the conversion that way or have your child study under a courtier or noble with the religion you want and have them take religious studies growing up.

The last option is probably your best bet since it's usually difficult to marry someone who has the religious type you want since nobles don't usually marry outside of their religious groups unless their already part of your court and it would require you to find a jewish wife which would require one of your jewish courtiers to have enough children to reach maturity to than marry yours.

[galadon3]

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Religious_conversion#Decisions

that should list your ways to change the religion of your character and if it needs a DLC
Besides those you can take the longterm way of having your children educated by a guardian of the desired religion (and take heritage/faith focus if you have conclave).

[Широкума]

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something

but as far as I can remember, you can just secretly convert to anything as long as you're not Zealous and your wife or concubine was different religion than you (if with DLC I guess)

[Широкума]

I've once not being able to secretly convert,so I'm guessing it's because my character have zealous trait

ohh, and you need 250 piety for secretly converting to any religion

[Varainger]

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something
...

..and it woud result in a game over without DLC.

[gabriel_coqueirojm]

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something

but as far as I can remember, you can just secretly convert to anything as long as you're not Zealous and your wife or concubine was different religion than you (if with DLC I guess)

the Shia Muslims?

[Широкума]

Originally posted by Varainger:

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something
...

..and it woud result in a game over without DLC.

well obvioulsy also need some exploit such as Nomads being able to play any religion as long as you don't settle down and living the sedentary life

[Широкума]

Originally posted by Gabriel_CoqueiroRD:

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something

but as far as I can remember, you can just secretly convert to anything as long as you're not Zealous and your wife or concubine was different religion than you (if with DLC I guess)

the Shia Muslims?

you wanted to convert to Shia Muslim? well you obviously need the DLC to not get like Game Over, but if you have Horse Lords DLC... then you can be a Shia Muslim Nomad even if you don't have the Swords of Islam, if you stay nomad that is... it'll still give you Game Over if you chose to settle down as Shia Muslim without the DLC

[Широкума]

Originally posted by Varainger:

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

without DLC? I think you need to wait for an event to secretly convert or something
...

..and it woud result in a game over without DLC.

also I kinda meant that for either Way of Life or Conclave DLC, I guess one of these are the one that allows you to freely convert to any religion secretly

[gabriel_coqueirojm]

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

Originally posted by Gabriel_CoqueiroRD:

the Shia Muslims?

you wanted to convert to Shia Muslim? well you obviously need the DLC to not get like Game Over, but if you have Horse Lords DLC... then you can be a Shia Muslim Nomad even if you don't have the Swords of Islam, if you stay nomad that is... it'll still give you Game Over if you chose to settle down as Shia Muslim without the DLC

OK, thanks

[Varainger]

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

also I kinda meant that for either Way of Life or Conclave DLC, I guess one of these are the one that allows you to freely convert to any religion secretly

Well none of those two does that. Again, the point was not the conversion itself, the point is to prevent a game over afterwards. Nomads are the only exception regarding religious DCL requirements, as you said, but Horse Lords is still required.

[Широкума]

Originally posted by Varainger:

Originally posted by Peac0ck:

also I kinda meant that for either Way of Life or Conclave DLC, I guess one of these are the one that allows you to freely convert to any religion secretly

Well none of those two does that. Again, the point was not the conversion itself, the point is to prevent a game over afterwards. Nomads are the only exception regarding religious DCL requirements, as you said, but Horse Lords is still required.

I just thought they were, because I really don't remember much about the vanilla with no DLC, and the title along with the explanation of the question itself isn't about game over but about how to convert in the first place, so yeah... I didn't think about the Game Over