Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

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Ruffio Apr 14, 2019 @ 5:15am
How do you stop your vassals from fight each other?
I had a vassal fight the county of my heir and then threw him in prison. I'm not quite sure that is how it would work in the actual world, lol.

The larger your realm/empire gets, the harder it is to keep track of everything, its like herding cats. :/
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ste Apr 14, 2019 @ 5:28am 
They have in fights claiming each others territory, they can also expand your lands for you.
You can stop it with laws, but generally its not easy. So sometimes it can be a benefit. Probably best to let them get on with it and only step in when it directly effects you.

They are basically you before you came king, trying to get more powerful by taking what they can,

I think it would happen in the actual world, but I think you would have more power to say, stop your son from being imprisoned or something.
Last edited by ste; Apr 14, 2019 @ 5:31am
Jirki88 Apr 14, 2019 @ 5:30am 
Don't land your heir, and be thankful your vassals fight among themselves - it's when there's no fighting you can know someone grew powerful enough to be a threat to you.
Kiethoo Apr 14, 2019 @ 5:33am 
Some suggestions...

Change your laws to disallow vassals from Internal War. Usually I turn off External War off as well only because it can become annoying and I like my Empire to be "Neat and Tidy".

I usually try to make "Arch"-Dukes when I am a King or Emperor. Give a single Duke 2 or even 3 Dukedoms as long as Gravelkind is off. Then I only need to keep a single powerful duke happy instead of having 3 Dukes.

In the early game it can be difficult but mid-late game once you start unlocking stronger crown laws and as long as you have a powerful personal claim and army you shouldn't have anything to fear from making powerful vassals with lots of land over several smaller vassals.

Late Game once I have Imperial Unlocked I like to give my vassals Vicroyalty Kingdoms or multiple Vicoralty Dukedoms. Old King/Duke dies, make their heir the next one ( Big Opinion Boost for awhile ).

Lastly, you dont HAVE to go HUGE SPRAWLING EMPIRE.
You can play as a small empire with powerful holdings and be just as capable if not more then a large empire.
Ruffio Apr 14, 2019 @ 6:54am 
Originally posted by Kiethoo:
Some suggestions...

Change your laws to disallow vassals from Internal War. Usually I turn off External War off as well only because it can become annoying and I like my Empire to be "Neat and Tidy".

Have no such choices under laws. Is a certain dlc needed for that?
galadon3 Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:06am 
afaik conclave, without it, thats rolled into crown authority I think on the higher levels vassals are restricted / forbidden to wage wars.
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Kiethoo Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:22am 
Conclave is honestly more of a headacke. I dislike the child education thing, less fun flavor events then Basegame feels like. I wouldnt buy it until it's on sale with big discount.
galadon3 Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:52am 
Conclave is great for inner-realm politics stuff. Playing a vassal is greatly enhanced with it. If you want to just steamroll the map or always play as top-dog of your realm its less good, but even then, the reworked laws give you more finetuned control of your realm.
ste Apr 14, 2019 @ 8:55am 
I bought conclave and switched it off. It is more of a pain, feels like a baby sitting simulator.
You dont need conclave as its a realm law, but its quite hard and hassly to activate.
galadon3 Apr 14, 2019 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by ste:
I bought conclave and switched it off. It is more of a pain, feels like a baby sitting simulator.
You dont need conclave as its a realm law, but its quite hard and hassly to activate.

get a court-tutor
BrowneHawk Apr 14, 2019 @ 9:52am 
You really don't, eventually you will just have to deal with being in charge of stronger vassals. Just make sure to stay stronger than them. In my game last night one of my jarls revoked and took all his titled land. Then went on a stomping spree through Ireland. Before I I knew it he had a demense of 5 and had over 6 vassals.

So this could be good if your vassals are taking stuff you eventually need. Not so good when they take stuff in the middle of an enemy religions turf and pull you into money draining wars.
mrroderick Apr 14, 2019 @ 11:30am 
I encourage them to fight. Give the King of England a duchy in Ireland, give Ireland a duchy in Wales, give the Welsh some territory in Brittany, etc. The more they fight each other, the less they seem to have to form factions. I have found this tactic to work particularly well after restoring the Roman empire.
merkava808 Apr 14, 2019 @ 2:15pm 
Originally posted by Jirki88:
Don't land your heir, and be thankful your vassals fight among themselves - it's when there's no fighting you can know someone grew powerful enough to be a threat to you.
What is the issue with landing my heir? I am a new player and thought landing my heir would be a good idea because he is not likely to turn on me if I keep him happy. Or is it common for heirs to become kingslayers?
Not kingslayer* so much as every other bad idea around, from making terrible marriages, getting terrible traits (including kinslayer from plotting against other family members), going deep into debt, getting in fights with other vassals and getting seriously injured...
Nothing like finally dying and having your heir inherit only to realise they have no kids and no testicles left.

*Though that's possible too if they have some traits and/or a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ opinion of you.
Esoteric Apr 14, 2019 @ 3:46pm 
Enforce realm peace.
Turbulence Apr 15, 2019 @ 5:10am 
You can make it illegal for them to fight each other, or at all even, by passing the appropriate law. Be aware though that they won't be happy about it and will get a lot of spare time to plot against you instead. If you just need them to knock it off for a little while to change succesion law or something you can enforce realm peace with will end their wars and stop them from declaring new ones for a set period.
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