Count for 769 start

[Lennos]

I´m going to play a Multiplayer game of CK2 and I need a one province Count that has potential to grow in power and build up his domain. last thing is it should be in Europe, should be stable and shouldn´t be to risky. (England for example where the Norse can Invade and End the game)

[that guy]

I believe that the holder of Piemonte, Saluzzo, and Nice is still a count when the game starts. You have the land to form the duchy of Ivrea, or you can wait for your king to create and grant the title.

You can also try playing as one of the Nibelungs. The family controls large parts of France and Aquitaine. Expand by killing off your relatives or switching to seniority succession.

[Lennos]

Originally posted by that guy:

I believe that the holder of Piemonte, Saluzzo, and Nice is still a count when the game starts. You have the land to form the duchy of Ivrea, or you can wait for your king to create and grant the title.

You can also try playing as one of the Nibelungs. The family controls large parts of France and Aquitaine. Expand by killing off your relatives or switching to seniority succession.

should have specified it has to be a one province count.
If I change to seniority how am I gonna get their holdings their succesion law doesn´t change with mine or does it?

[that guy]

With agnatic-cognatic seniority succession law, the oldest male member of your dynasty inherits your titles when you die. If there are no male dynasty members, then the oldest female member inherits. So let's say you're the count of Macon and your oldest relative is the duke of Toulouse. When you die, you play as the duke of Toulouse, and inherit the county of Macon.

If you have to start as a one province count, there aren't really any choices that makes one better than another. In Italy/Lombardy, you can try playing as the count of Parma. His father is the count of Mantua, and you are the heir. You can also try playing as the count of Ferrara. His brother is the duke of Tuscany. The counts of Ancona and Urbino are brothers and start as each others' heirs.

I'm not as familiar with the rest of europe. I tend to play around Italy because viking raiders only come once a year as opposed to 5 times a year in England or northern France.

Definitely stay away from Bavaria. It tends to get eaten up by the neighboring pagans relatively quickly.

[Lennos]

Originally posted by that guy:

With agnatic-cognatic seniority succession law, the oldest male member of your dynasty inherits your titles when you die. If there are no male dynasty members, then the oldest female member inherits. So let's say you're the count of Macon and your oldest relative is the duke of Toulouse. When you die, you play as the duke of Toulouse, and inherit the county of Macon.

If you have to start as a one province count, there aren't really any choices that makes one better than another. In Italy/Lombardy, you can try playing as the count of Parma. His father is the count of Mantua, and you are the heir. You can also try playing as the count of Ferrara. His brother is the duke of Tuscany. The counts of Ancona and Urbino are brothers and start as each others' heirs.

I'm not as familiar with the rest of europe. I tend to play around Italy because viking raiders only come once a year as opposed to 5 times a year in England or northern France.

Definitely stay away from Bavaria. It tends to get eaten up by the neighboring pagans relatively quickly.

I will probably start as catholic somewhere around france/Italy or play as anorse Invading the other players

[Ás Fífldjarfi]

I have started many games as Western Iceland and ended up pretty powerful... as western Iceland you need to wait for the viking event, then you invade eastern Iceland as soon as he leaves to raid someone, then you invade the Faroese islands, because the scottish king does not have any ships so it's pretty easy.

Then you must decide wether to convert and bring holy-war to Norway, or stay norse, and invade Ireland. I have ended up as the emperor of Brittania plenty of times this way... the only problem is that if you go for Britain instead of scandinavia... you will have a hard time reforming your faith. The only problem in this route is the Aztec invasion, but they can be turned off.

[Lennos]

Originally posted by Ás Fífldjarfi:

I have started many games as Western Iceland and ended up pretty powerful... as western Iceland you need to wait for the viking event, then you invade eastern Iceland as soon as he leaves to raid someone, then you invade the Faroese islands, because the scottish king does not have any ships so it's pretty easy.

Then you must decide wether to convert and bring holy-war to Norway, or stay norse, and invade Ireland. I have ended up as the emperor of Brittania plenty of times this way... the only problem is that if you go for Britain instead of scandinavia... you will have a hard time reforming your faith. The only problem in this route is the Aztec invasion, but they can be turned off.

going to consider it but is it viable in multiplayer because I dont know but iceland doesn´t have the biggest economic power

[Darksinth]

venice... win because of the biggest economy in the world... if you can survive the start

[Lennos]

Originally posted by Belphegor:

venice... win because of the biggest economy in the world... if you can survive the start

whats special with the start that I shouldn´t survive it?
If my King doesn´t want to revoke it like in Paris I should be good because I could marry of my children to other dukes to save me from mine or just lend tons of money from the Jews.

[quarre]

Why not Rosello? Its on north side of Barcelona duchy. You have one county, and you're the only dynasty member. Islam guys wont attack you for first years because France, and after that... well, in one of my games i started there and ended as Emperor of Hispania (because i was bored).

Or you can start as single county count in Asturias.

Or you can play as duke of Provence. Not a count, but he has only one county by himself and a powerful vassal with 3 counties. As bonus, 2 CB on neighbours, because they're in de jury Provence.

There's tons of single-county starts.

[Donathan Cheadledge]

Originally posted by Belphegor:

venice... win because of the biggest economy in the world... if you can survive the start

Surviving as venice is ez wut

[jfoytek]

The count in the duchy of powy's in wales....

Can easily inherit of just strait revolt to take control of the duchy...
And then its pretty easy to grab the kingdom of wales after that...

[abi.dierecte]

Paris...I played as count of Paris 769 start and got revoked in ten years. Game over. I thought I was doing really well, and I guess I was, my demesne was so attractive the king wanted it for himself.

[Valentine Michael Smith]

Originally posted by abi.dierecte:

Paris...I played as count of Paris 769 start and got revoked in ten years. Game over. I thought I was doing really well, and I guess I was, my demesne was so attractive the king wanted it for himself.

yeah, having the capital of a your kings primary duchy makes you a pretty attractive target

[quarre]

I played as count of Paris one day, starting at 769, and king couldn't do anything about it.