Should I adopt Tanistry?

[Hard Rooster]

I have three mail heirs right now, and my petty kingdom stands to be split to death upon my death, which is what always seems to happen. Would adopting Tanistry help with this? Could they put all the Demesenes under the same heir, or will it still be just as fractured?

[al_x_ator2411]

I only played with Tanistry once. It should work OK for a duchy. Not 100% sure what would happen if you form a 2nd duchy though.

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Tanistry

[Hard Rooster]

The wiki makes it sound like it's hard to pass inheritence to a child. I'm just holding onto a single duchy for now. I don't really want to expand until I'm Feudal and can adopt the whatever it's called where my oldest son gets the whole kit n' kaboodle.

[Rajiin Terra]

Alas I was excited for Tanistry when I first saw it, swapped to it straight away because I thought it worked like historical Scottish inheritence.... I was oh so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ wrong. I honestly think it's only slightly better then elective gavelkind.

[Hard Rooster]

I hate all the Gavelkind types. I'd rather pass off my kingdom to a cousin and keep it together, than have to constantly piece my counties back together by killing my siblings, or making claims and going to war with them, etc. Will Tanistry at least keep it all in one piece?

[Wheedies]

'Would adopting Tanistry help with this? ' No. Tanistry is elective Gavelkind where enstead of random vassals, your family inheirits. Its good to keep it in the family, but bad if you want a long reign with good traits. usualy the ai favors older people woth lots of prestige, so you'll end up being that one uncle twice removed that you forgot about. I use it for role play purpeses, while not bad its better then normal Gavelkind because your six kids dont all have strong claims on the title.

[Hard Rooster]

OK, so I should just figure out how to progress to (whatever it's called) so I can just pass it on to my eldest son. Right now, it's not even a greyed out option.

[Wheedies]

or kill your sons, or give all axess titles to your inheiriting son.

[Hard Rooster]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1206122155

I can't plot to kill my own children, game won't allow it.

How would you go about granting the land to a specific son in a gavelkind succession? I don't see any way I can revoke titles from the heirs, considering they don't have any titles to revoke...until I'm dead.

[Wheedies]

First, best way ro kill your sons would be to make them spymaster and send them to study tech in constandtonople if you can, for some reason that usualy kills people.

second, you give your land ( that which would be split up at death ) to the inheiriting son.) Usualy for me at age 50-55 ( or when I expect to die soon) I give my land away so my other sons dont get anything and it all comes back to me = e.g. the inheriting son.

[Hard Rooster]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1206136806

Cant grant him the land titles either. I can only give him the one's he's going to inherit anyway.

Kinda risky to kill off all the kids before he makes an heir of his own, isn't it? If he dies before he makes a son...let me finish my own thought whilst typing...I should wait for him to bear his own heir (my grandson), THEN try to send my other sons off to be killed as spymaster, assuming they themselves don't bear sons of their own in that time.

[Wheedies]

The other sons dont matter, and killing them off can take some time, and (assuming you can use life focuses) once the heir inherets take sudection fucus, and ♥♥♥♥♥ around untill you get an heir, usualy under a year.

Byzantium, usualy imprisons foreign spymasters reletivly quickly ( then kills, castrates or blinds them, making them dead.)

Now with normal Gavelkind you should have strong claims on your former tilttles, and could instantly go to war to regain them.

[Hard Rooster]

Well, the problem seems to have solved itself, sorta. My eldest heir, and the one that had really good stats, died of the flu or something, then another son later died due to issues with gout, leaving me with a single male heir...for now...unless I have another son. (I just remaried a fairly young wife, mainly because I needed her stats to increase my demesene size after my previous wife died)

So this son, who was acutually the twin of my origional heir, sucks. Horrible stats, lulz. And he's married to like a 60 year old woman, because I betrothed him to her to prevent him from having kids. But they had kids anyway, so jokes on me.

Oh, and just for good measure, I have revolt risk popping up in two counties. ITS GOOD TO BE KING?!

[Wheedies]

Revolt risk could always be handled with the marshal. And the wife could always be killed or divorced. (And presonaly for my play style the only trait I care about is marshal, as it hevily modifys army size, but thats just me.)

Do you have a court physician/ are your sons in your court then?

[Hard Rooster]

I do have a physician, and my last remaining son is safely in court...though slow fever is beginning to spread in my realm, but not in my capital at least.

[Hard Rooster]

Ugh...it's not solved. One of my grandsons is going to inherit the second duchy. My son will only inherit the capitol and it's associated duchy. Why is that happening? Bleh!