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Holding more than one kingdom
So I have had the problem, that if I start as the holder of Leon I cant get far enough to form the empire of spain. I always easily get Gacilia and Castille, but then I own 3 kingdoms and it is very hard to control these. Do you guys have any tips?
Originally posted by gregoryk64:
You don't mention where you are having difficulty in maintaining control. Is it a succession issue? Factions and rebellions? If it's the former, make sure your succession laws in all three kingdoms ensure that only one heir will inherit all three kingdom titles. If it's the latter, make sure you are keeping your vassals happy and liking you (at least enough to not want to rebel). The dukes in those kingdoms that are not your main title will all covet the crown of their de jure kingdom for themselves, so you not only have to try to keep them content but also weak enough that they can't pose a threat to you militarily. If they continue to be a problem, wait until you have just cause to imprison them and take them out.

Also, never try to hold too many provinces or duchies personally. Two personal duchy titles should be your limit, and try not to be over your demesne limit with counties and baronies. If you have vassals that are de jure to your vassal dukes or counts, transfer the vassalage to them. This will all help to keep your realm stable and increase your opinion with your vassals.
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gregoryk64 Mar 21, 2019 @ 2:20pm 
You don't mention where you are having difficulty in maintaining control. Is it a succession issue? Factions and rebellions? If it's the former, make sure your succession laws in all three kingdoms ensure that only one heir will inherit all three kingdom titles. If it's the latter, make sure you are keeping your vassals happy and liking you (at least enough to not want to rebel). The dukes in those kingdoms that are not your main title will all covet the crown of their de jure kingdom for themselves, so you not only have to try to keep them content but also weak enough that they can't pose a threat to you militarily. If they continue to be a problem, wait until you have just cause to imprison them and take them out.

Also, never try to hold too many provinces or duchies personally. Two personal duchy titles should be your limit, and try not to be over your demesne limit with counties and baronies. If you have vassals that are de jure to your vassal dukes or counts, transfer the vassalage to them. This will all help to keep your realm stable and increase your opinion with your vassals.
Cybot Mar 21, 2019 @ 3:20pm 
Im not an expert by any means, but right now Im playing as the king of Bosnia. I own the Kingdom of Croatia, Kingdom of Bosnia, Kingdom of Serbia and Kingdom of Bulgaria.

So far it's doing alright, what i've done so far is just create duchies. I have aroung 10 duchies, and I keep the dukes happy. As long as the majority of them are happy, im safe. 2-3 dukes I can easily handle if they should rebel.

Also, I didn't create any of the kingdoms except the main one which for me right now is Bosnia. I got it via an event, and just stuck with it.

I plan on creating events when I have the imperial administration, then I will swap my 10 dukes for like 3-4 kings and just keep them happy.

Thats how i've done so far, and my plan. Not sure if it works, but thats my tip for you.

1: Don't create the kingdoms
2: Create some duchies and keep the dukes happy
3: Get imperial admin and then create kingdoms.
Karlington Mar 21, 2019 @ 6:55pm 
As asked above, what is the exact issue you are having? :)

In my experience it's better not to create multiple kingdoms until you are an emperor, and then only hand them out as viceroyalties.

Having multiple kingdoms and hoarding them yourself will cause vassals to get a "Desires the kingdom of <x>" opinion malus toward you. Your primary title is exempt from this, though, so as long as you only have one title in your top tier it will not affect your vassal relations. :)
I am having problems with succession, sorry for not clarifying that.
Karlington Mar 22, 2019 @ 5:56am 
Originally posted by Leo Trotzki:
I am having problems with succession, sorry for not clarifying that.

Do you mean that you have different succession laws for the different kingdoms, which will cause the realm to split apart on succession?

If so, you can change the other kingdoms' succession laws once you fulfill the usual requirements (10 year rule, no count+ vassals with negative opinions). The 10 year rule only starts from when you get that title, though, and not from when you started to rule your first title/kingdom.

When you created the new kingdoms they should have copied the laws from your original kingdom title, but if you took or usurped them they'll keep whatever laws they had at the time.

If the other kingdoms are not gavelkind, destroy them. You can see posts above explaining why it's usually better to have only one kingdom until you become an emperor. :)
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