How do i get a claim on scotland

[NUCLEAR_DETONATION]

i am king of ireland, i know i have to marry but who do i marry to get a claim?

[CidDaBird]

Press F3

Go to Positions

Click the Fabricate claim, then place it where the kingdom's capital is.

Wait. (Usually a long time)

[NUCLEAR_DETONATION]

Originally posted by (っ◔◡◔)っᑕᗩᖇIᑎG:

Press F3

Go to Positions

Click the Fabricate claim, then place it where the kingdom's capital is.

Wait. (Usually a long time)

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[al_x_ator2411]

Either someone that aleady has a claim (preferably a strong, inheritable one) or one of the legitimate kids of the current king (they will get a claim after the king dies).

https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Claims

[Candesco]

If he is still alive, then it's obvious the King of Scotland himself got the title and it's kids will be the successor. If he has no kids, then most of the time the marshal inherits it.
I don't know in which period you play, but if it's 867 (viking age, added with old gods), then what you also can do is conquer Sudreyjar. The kingdom of Sudreyjar is actually for a large part a de jure part of Scotland. Same goes for Strathclyde, which is actually fully part of Scotland.
Keep also in mind that if you assimilate a duchy or kingdom, then it doesn't count to get a claim on the preferred kingdom.

[Sergent H]

Originally posted by Candesco:

If he is still alive, then it's obvious the King of Scotland himself got the title and it's kids will be the successor. If he has no kids, then most of the time the marshal inherits it.

What are you talking about? Marshal is only a council position; no reason to inherit a kingdom by this.
If there is no kid then it's the brother of the King who inherit; if dead; then his nephew in absolute agnatic

Originally posted by Candesco:

then what you also can do is conquer Sudreyjar. The kingdom of Sudreyjar is actually for a large part a de jure part of Scotland. Same goes for Strathclyde, which is actually fully part of Scotland.
Keep also in mind that if you assimilate a duchy or kingdom, then it doesn't count to get a claim on the preferred kingdom.

A Kingdom can't be deJure part of another Kingdom; Sudreyjar which you are talking (Or the Isles) is a duchy in the kingdom of Scotland ; as Strahclyde.

[Random]

well, dejure drift could lead to a situation where any or all of the duchies inside scotland could end up in ireland if enough time has passed with the king or ireland holding or ruling over them.

to the OP, you want to attempt to marry your future heir to one of the elder daughters of the king of scotland. Alternatively you could see if you can invite any of the kings sisters husbands to your court (as they are likely in regular marriages and thus follow the husband).

Assuming the sister is youngish (16-30 optimally) you then plot to kill her husband in your court and when he is dead you then take the sister as your own wife or wife of your first born son with the hope of them producing a grandchild fo your (and future heir) that will inherit the weak claim fo the kingdom from his mother (the sister/daughter of king of scotland).

[gregoryk64]

The quickest way with marriage, assuming Scotland has agnatic/cognatic gavelkind or primogeniture succession and the king has a male heir and daughters, is to marry your male heir to the eldest daughter. Once the marriage is finalized (not just a betrothal) assassinate the king's sons. This should make your daughter-in-law the heir. Assuming that both Ireland and Scotland have gavelkind or primogeniture, the eldest child of that marriage will inherit both Ireland and Scotland.

Obviously, there are a lot of variables that could completely screw this plan before it is successful. IMO it would take far less luck and not much more time to just start conquering little pieces of Scotland until you control enough provinces to usurp the kingdom.

[gregoryk64]

Originally posted by Random:

well, dejure drift could lead to a situation where any or all of the duchies inside scotland could end up in ireland if enough time has passed with the king or ireland holding or ruling over them.

Considering de jure drift default takes 100 years from the time another kingdom controls an entire duchy, it's highly unlikely that very many (if any) Scottish duchies would drift to Ireland before a player focused on taking the kingdom would control enough land to usurp the title. At least with a Charlemagne or Old Gods start date.

[The Last Saskatchewan Pirate]

Do what I did.

>be queen of ireland
>matrilineally marry a random dude with good stats who was willing to be invited to my court.
>dude turns out to be the heir to a scottish county.
>leaves my court to run his county when his father dies.
>ambitious husband
>grows his county into a duchy
>overthrows current king of scotland while I wasn't looking
>becomes king of scotland
>which means now I'm queen of scotland
>wtf
>I die, pass on Ireland to my nominated son.
>be son.
>dad dies a year later. Suddenly I get Scotland for free.
*pikachu face.jpg*

[Sergent H]

or simply ask the pope claims on the land in Scotland; it's quite OP since the last DLC