How long after beatification can canonization happen?

[NewbieOne]

As per title. My character's dad died >3 years ago and was beatified some months after dead. I'm wondering if he's ever going to be canonized. I know it can sometimes take a while, but it's already pretty late. He was a king with 4K piety, all seven virtues and one or two other threats that count, and there aren't many saints in the religion (year 1000-ish, 769 start)

[Mr_Faorry]

I've seen someone get Sainted 15 years after their death, just give it time and so long as the pope isn't a wicked priest it should happen eventually.
This[ck2.paradoxwikis.com] will give a breakdown of the chance to become a saint once beatified.

[eastcoastceo]

It takes a minimum of 4-5 years, I think. But it might also never happen. I had 3 dynasty members blessed in one game, and waited 50+ years and nothing happened.

The 4th dynasty member won 3 crusades (1 for Jerusalem, 2 Northern ones in Lithuania) and died with 8K prestige and piety, and she finally got sainted 4.5 years after she died.

Still unsure if the pope's opinion of you, or your relative rank (Blessed count vs. Blessed King) play into it, but I can imagine it can't hurt to be more powerful.

[NewbieOne]

In this game I have a previous player character who had all the seven virtues, and the full seven includes benevolent and pious traits, not sure how much piety he had upon dying, perhaps less than the required amount, but IIRC he was a true Christian knight, so I wonder what happened — especially considering the big multiplier for past player characters without a saintly bloodline.

In this case the canonization happened minutes after I posted this topic, so I'm reasonably happy. Playing as Catholic Tibet + Khotan I'll certainly appreciate +30% damage vs religious opponents on all brothers, uncles, third sons etc. available to serve as commanders.

In my previous game I ended up having three saintly bloodlines, starting from 1066 — two early on and one near the end game, plus one blessed but not canonized character, while pretty much all of them met the requirements and had multipliers through the roof. Still, in that game I sometimes had +100% damage versus religious opponents and remember son-father-grandfather-led armies.

[Dimwit Donald (very high IQ)]

Do characters first get blessed (shortly after death) and then potentially sainted later or does blessed mean it wasn't quite enough for saint??

My empress just died with 10.000+ piety and around 12.000 prestige, she gave rome back to the pope, won a crusade with highest participation for a beneficiary, had every single virtue and no vices, was leader of the benedictines...

Isn't that saint material?

[eastcoastceo]

Originally posted by Wyatt Derp:

Do characters first get blessed (shortly after death) and then potentially sainted later or does blessed mean it wasn't quite enough for saint?

It is a two-step process- first a person must be blessed, which usually happens within a year after their death. Then, there is a multi-year waiting period, and which point an RNG roll happens, and if your character "wins" that RNG roll, then they become a saint.

With the amount of prestige and piety you listed for your former empress, the odds of her being sainted are pretty good, but there is always a chance it never happens. You can check out my thread on the official Paradox forum if you want to see some detailed examples:

https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/help-me-understand-ck2-sainthood-how-to-get-canonized.1147382/#post-25090973