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cheg Dec 19, 2018 @ 11:16am
any advantages of not picking temporal leadership?
are there any? apart from the +2 stat bonus of autonomous?
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Originally posted by Zsrai:
Dealing with a Pope (Hierocratic) is much better in most situations. They get the threat from Crusades, they can grant excommunications, you can use them to get claims, grant divorces, etc. The only things that Temporal really gives you is the absolute control over where and when a Crusade is called (instead of mostly having control) and the crown in your treasury.

Autonomous works with a few other options to give you a lot of extra stats, but doesn't do a whole lot else. I'd still say that's roughly on par with Temporal though. Everyone of your religion gets the bonus stats after all.

Autocephalous is probably the weakest, but that's only because it gives you most of what Hierocratic gives you but you can only do a lot of the actions (excomms, etc) inside your own kingdom. Every other kingdom has their own religious head. It can be really good for screwing with your own vassals, but it's not as good for any external shenanigans.
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Zsrai Dec 19, 2018 @ 1:05pm 
Dealing with a Pope (Hierocratic) is much better in most situations. They get the threat from Crusades, they can grant excommunications, you can use them to get claims, grant divorces, etc. The only things that Temporal really gives you is the absolute control over where and when a Crusade is called (instead of mostly having control) and the crown in your treasury.

Autonomous works with a few other options to give you a lot of extra stats, but doesn't do a whole lot else. I'd still say that's roughly on par with Temporal though. Everyone of your religion gets the bonus stats after all.

Autocephalous is probably the weakest, but that's only because it gives you most of what Hierocratic gives you but you can only do a lot of the actions (excomms, etc) inside your own kingdom. Every other kingdom has their own religious head. It can be really good for screwing with your own vassals, but it's not as good for any external shenanigans.
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salatrin Dec 19, 2018 @ 2:41pm 
The one time being Temporal is TRULY great is when playing as Yazidi(sunni muslim heresy) as not only do you get to control the when and where of Jihads, but you can also Excommunicate whoever you bloody well please, which is really handy for vassal management(any vassals that get out of hand or on your nerves, or simply just cuz you can, you can Excomm them for free imprisonment/executions.

As for Pagan reform, i still prefer the temporal route cuz sometimes your Hierocratic figurehead moron likes to be silly and call GHW's against some faraway duchy on the other side of the map just cuz they can.

Plus being Temporal means that you can use GHW's for your own personal use(i want to attack the HRE but too much trouble on my own, so lets call a GHW against them so i can get some free allies to help me take them down)

Most importantly tho, being temporal as the last person said means getting a free artifact and seriously, who dont like getting free sh**, amiright?
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