How to restore hellenism?

[Basil]

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[Barley]

iirc you have to have restored the roman empire and then its a random event.

[Moineau]

I had a few characters who popped in the county of Monemvasia (last hellenic area) who had the hellenic faith. I invited one of them to my court and he teached his religion to my heir, yay...

[galadon3]

- control one of the hellenic holy sites
- be greek or italian
- have the scholarship fokus (think some other things work too: scholar-trait and lunatic, but didnt test that yet, so can't confirm it for sure)
- be christian (probably not an heretic... not sure about that)

Thats makes the "delve into the classics" decision appear in your intrigue-menu, to actually use it you need a learning-skill of 6 or more (usually easily doable with the +3 from the fokus and the option to get some points quickly from building the observatory, so even a learning 1 character should manage it.)

Taking it and then deciding that you want to learn about the old gods makes you secretly (if secret cults are active in the game-options) or openly (if not) hellenic.
Ofc from there its rather a long way to go since you are most likely the only follower of a religion that most likely has a whooping 5% moral authority at that point (maybe more if you control more of their holy sites when you switch)

[susannag]

Just out of curiosity, what are the hellenic holy sites?

[galadon3]

Athens, Rome, Alexandria, Thessalonica and Syracuse

[Fellow]

Athens, Rome, Abydos, Thessalonica, Alexandria

[galadon3]

Originally posted by Fellow:

Athens, Rome, Abydos, Thessalonica, Alexandria

They changed Abydos for Syracuse... fell for that when I tried to do it with the count of abydos and couldn't figure out why I didnt get the decision, changed to Athens and became hellenic, then checked it in their religion-window and saw that they changed abydos for syracuse

[Peda]

potential = {
has_game_rule = {
name = hellenism_rule
value = on
}
has_dlc = "Holy Fury"
is_adult = yes
religion_group = christian #Must be Christian.
is_heretic = no #Must belong to a dominant denomination of the faith.
OR = { #Must be of the interested cultures.
culture = greek
culture = italian
culture = roman
}
OR = { #Must be eccentric or crazy.
trait = lunatic
trait = possessed
trait = scholar
trait = mystic
has_focus = focus_scholarship
}
OR = { #Must control an hellenic Holy Site.
completely_controls = c_thessalonike
completely_controls = c_atheniai
completely_controls = c_siracusa
completely_controls = c_roma
completely_controls = c_alexandria
}
NOR = { #Must not have used this decision or be an hellen already.
is_theocracy = yes
religion = hellenic_pagan
religion = hellenic_pagan_reformed
secret_religion = hellenic_pagan
secret_religion = hellenic_pagan_reformed
has_character_modifier = caesars_insight
has_character_modifier = ciceros_insight
has_character_modifier = justinians_insight
has_character_flag = flag_delving_into_classics
has_global_flag = hellenic_reformation #No point in secrecy, there are other ways to convert.
}
capital_scope = { #Court must also be localized in Italy or Greece.
OR = {
region = world_europe_south_italy
region = world_europe_south_east
}
}
}

allow = {
prisoner = no
NOT = { trait = incapable }
learning = 6

[Dracupuncture]

simple answer, scholarship focus and be orthodox not iconoclast then you get the delve into the classics decision.

[Dracupuncture]

that being said you cant demand conversion so make sure you have a lot of folks in your secret hellenic society before "coming out"

[Basil]

Well, it seems almost impossible to reform the religion then unless you own the all the sites. The authority being so low, and not being able to demand religious conversions, how could anyone do that?

[galadon3]

might be possible owning 3 sites (for 30%) and going on conquest through the balkans, hellenes are pagans so they have the county-conquest CD and every conquest gives 1% authority.

But yea the main idea seems to be to restore it once you reformed the roman empire, with the "delve into classics" decision being more like the "hard" way.

[Peda]

Originally posted by galadon3:

But yea the main idea seems to be to restore it once you reformed the roman empire, with the "delve into classics" decision being more like the "hard" way.

Yeah, you need to control all holy sites anyway if you want to restore Rome, so as soon as you turn Hellenic you could reform the religion. That's what I did in my Byzantine run to see the new mechanics.

[Basil]

Originally posted by galadon3:

with the "delve into classics" decision being more like the "hard" way.

Hard I think is a bit of an underestimate. I don't see it as being possible. I wanna see someone do it with just 1 holy site

[Peda]

Originally posted by Basil:

Hard I think is a bit of an underestimate. I don't see it as being possible. I wanna see someone do it with just 1 holy site

But why keep it at 1? Starting as a greek under the Byzantines and conquering Thessalonika, Syracuse and Athens should be plenty