Playing Merchant Republic. If i build a city, I still lose it on succession if i lose election?

[irmanyadi]

Hi guys, I play this game on and off, though it is almost 400 hours gameplay. Just decent understanding. Still, some concept eludes me.

I dont understand why I would lose a city that my family build? I can see another Patrician owns a city somewhere is Coastal Croatia, but on every succession, the city ownership will always transferred to New Patrician Family Leader.

Is it because they build or own that city as a Patrician, and anything they owned through that method, is considered theirs, forever? Unless of course, some other foreign army decide to take over it.

My family build and own city is NOT transferrable through succession because I build it when family leader was Doge? In order to keep it, I have to remain Doge?

Thank you in advance for helping me.

[Khan Boyzitbig of Mercia]

Only the county capital of the republic is transferred to the new doge all other holdings stay with your family. The title loss on succession warning should show the other titles going to your heir unless you have now family heir.

[WolfWhiteFire]

Sort of like Khan said, in general you will keep any titles that aren't the highest tier in the kingdom or empire or de-jure capital or the such, but it can get really odd and unpredictable. Some times I might keep my duchies and counties other than the capital duchy and county, other times I might lose my non-primary kingdom titles in an empire, as well as everything but my baronies. That is one thing I haven't yet worked out how it works for merchant republics

[bri]

You will always lose the capital city+county+duchy+kingdom+empire along with any other top-tier titles you might have. Other kingdom titles in an empire level MR function according to their succession law (so if you gain them by claiming they may go with gavelkind, etc and be lost along with lower titles within them that go with the kingdom). If you lose a kingdom title to someone other than the new Doge you will almost certainly also lose lower titles in that kingdom's de jure list as well.

[irmanyadi]

Thank you guys.

You guys are right, indeed, when i move the cursor to Title Loss on Succession Shield, it shows that the castle that I build will go to my family heir (so why the warning?).

However, why I got confuse is that on succession picture when u press F4, it shows the Picture of the Patrician that is expected to win election. So it was contradictory info.

I was keen to experiment n find out what would actually happen once my Doge died, but unfortunately the rival Patrician that was suppose to win, died first, and my heir won the election.

Thus, I never did find out whether the castle goes to my family once my Doge died, or it will pass on to the next Doge.

[bri]

The warning is because you are losing the Doge title-thus losing a title. It's not the game-over warning, it's just letting you know that as things stand you're losing "something".

[eastcoastceo]

I agree with the OP, the title warning makes it should like you will lose everything, but I can confirm from recent experience, that you will lose only the Doge title and the Capital City of Venice (I assume you are playing Venice).

You will get to keep your family palace, as well as any other holdings you conquered while Doge (cities, castles, etc.)

[irmanyadi]

Getting the hang of MR. Im gonna try not to be Doge, and try to conquer some land, coz its only 960 and i think ill finish upgrading everything in 20-30 years