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Norway can be aquired through diplomacy once you have a kingdom title, as all the chiefs will accept your vassalization offers if you border them. Use subjugation to take Danemark, and invade Finland as you can.
Once all of that's done you should conquer your ally to finish up. If necessary you can assassinate the king you've been allied with and attack his heir. Just get this done before your ruler dies and you're good. You'll still get the kingdoms split and it doesn't exactly get easy right away after this. But mostly everything will stay in the empire.
- If you hold more than 50% of another de jure kingdom in addition to your home kingdom, and you have more than one heir, when you die the Kingdom level title will be created automatically and your second in line inherits it.
- You can abuse this mechanic to create the Empire. If your own offspring inherits your primary title, he gets claims on all other titles that are created. So if Norway, Denmark and/or Finland are auto generated on death, your heir has claims on them and can declare war for those titles. It can save some gold, and help to reconsolidate your territory.
- Once you have a kingdom level title created, the de jure vassals almost always join you on an invite. So if you have Norway, you can invite the Icelandic folks in to nudge you closer to 80%.
- You can sidestep the Elective Gavelkind ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ by doing the following: bank at least 1500 prestige (I suggest 3k to have tribal armies handy for revolts), have yourself a Christian concubine or just convert when a healer comes in; convert to the Christian religion, change to Gavelkind inheritance, then convert back to the local pagan faith. You will retain the Gavelkind inheritance, which means your kingdom will not break up on your death unless you've already created multiple Kingdom level titles.
- Hypothetically you can manipulate who gets elected, by pumping their prestige and marrying other sons or heirs to high value targets that create NA pacts - electors are SUPPOSED to vote for high prestige heirs that have no allies, but generally, they vote for the worst possible ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ family member.
- Use raiding to pump your cash and prestige to create your titles in one fell swoop, instead of leaving multiple titles to chance on death. If nothing else your heir gets the gold to try again.
- If you're able to, reform the faith, then just switch to Gavelkind.
No, they really don't once you get a few generations in or you have more than one or two electors. The electors pick the most moronic and worthless idiot they can find, regardless of "good stock," whatever that means.
The hardest part is getting finland before they can raise tribal aids armies against you, so focus 90% on that. Taking demark relatively early will allow you to quickly become a king also which then allows you to chain demand everyone in norway to swear fealty to you as you border them and they will.
It is entirely possible to form scandanavia as well as reform the germanic religion before the first ruler even dies, absolutely worse case during ragnarrs reign.
the longer you take the harder it gets as you will be constantly dealing with tribal event troops.
As for elective gavelkind, it doesn't mean much when you get a strong claim on your brothers who get landed, so you can just attack them immediately to acquire "free" kingdom titles, as you need more than 1 anyways to make the empire, and having to pay for another kingdom honestly is an expense you can do without.
Which I pretty much spelled out, yeah.
I've been raiding quite a bit to keep my funds and prestige up but it can be a nightmare if your character dies out of nowhere and some random chap gets it. Im going to try to change inheritance and go fighting all the time.
On the truce breaker, I didn't think it was that low that we could keep going back to war so im going to keep that in mind.
Im going to do what I can to save up loads of gold and prestige, ive had issues getting above 4k prestige cause id have someone kick off a war and then see 11k troops moving across my land. One thing ive noticed, ive got tough opposition on my Eastern front with Perm and Rus controlling loads so ill try find someone to help gang up on them when the time is right.
Thanks again for the help, onto the pillaging.
A few pointers on changing succession laws. Tribal rulers can only have gavelkind, so you need to become feudal in order to change that. Giong tribal requires:
a) Building a hillfort in your capital county or conquering a county with a castle and moving your capital there.
b) Having an absolute tribal organization law.
c) Having a reformed religion. That's a (relatively) tricky part. The easiest way is probably becoming a Catholic/Orthodox/Muslim from your wife or concubine (as long as you can get a woman in your court and take her as concubine, it will do). Although that may cause some difficulties with vassals unless you are planning a full conversion.
The other route is reforming Germanic faith which requires control of 3 holy sites, 50% moral authority and 750 piety. Getting control of the holy sites is relatively easy for most Norse characters since 3 of them are in Scandinavia itself). Moral authority is gained through country counquest wars and looting temples of other religions (again since France and HRE are usually very strong in that time period, England is the prime target) and piety shouldn't be a problem.
Hope that helps a bit.
If you can run the breeding program properly, elective gavelkind is the second best succession law after the feudal elective available to non-muslims. In my current campaign (as luck would have it, Gotland into Scandinavia) out of 9 rulers I had by the end of 10th certury, 5 were geniuses and 2 were quick. Never had a single problem electing those geniuses, I have no idea where that stuff about electors picking idiots is coming from... Geniuses get like 15 votes out of 20.
It gets a bit boring, but still, playing a character who has a sum of attribute points which is higher than what anybody else in the world has (I got to 107 without immortality and spawn of satan on one guy) is kinda fun.
Do you mean states or titles? The only thing resembling a nation in this game is culture / religion.
Elective Gavelkind runs into multiple problems that are way outside of your control, not an insignificant one being if an elector dies and is replaced, his vote is not necessarily going to be the same as the one you were coddling for. So maybe your games lined up perfectly every time, none of your electors died, all your genius heirs survived to adulthood, you didn't have any of them become indepent and marry while independent to have children that enter into the elector cycle, and maybe you managed to do all that without save scumming it.
Having played dozens of ironman pagan games I will tell you that no, you don't just "properly breed geniuses" and have them magically elected.
Especially since votes are hypothetically cast primarily on prestige, opinion of the character by the electors if they were to be the liege and land holdings/titles, which include alliances and NAPs. Genius certainly will contribute to that but if your kid becomes a rival with an elector somehow, sorry, no vote. If your genius kid becomes a coward outside of your control, scuttled.
So frankly, you're either maginifcently lucky or save scumming, though most likely a combination of both.
and prestige mainly comes from titles which can be granted to preferred candidate.
That's maybe 1 or 2 votes. Also if they are voting for the bad candidate, kill them. Maybe their heir will vote properly.
That really doesn't happen that often: in my current dynasty of 171 memebers there are only 6 craven characters - 3,5%.
Well, here is your problem, your are mean!
Listen I'm not saying that I'm super experienced in CK2, I only have 550 hours on record, that's basically a tutorial finished. But in maybe 50 elections I had with gavelkind and proper elective over the course of 5 big campaigns (not counting smaller achievement runs) I don't think I had a single occasion when somebody really weird and bad was elected not to mention getting my dynasty voted out of the main title...