how to solve this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ "Title loss on succession"

[fat gaben]

What the ♥♥♥♥ is this???? and how to avoid it ??? i tried every option in the game and i still can't avoid wtfffff

[Azunai]

it's a feature of the gavelkind (or elective gavelkind) succession law. only way to avoid it is to switch your top title(s) to a different succession law or to only ever have 1 valid heir with no siblings.

[galadon3]

Usually its because gavelkind succesion laws will split your titles between your heirs.
To say more I'd need more info on your actual game.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

more info would help.

But either you don't have any eligible heirs for all the titles (or they have different heirs), or or have some form of gavelkind and multiple eligible heirs (which will split up some of your realm).

[fat gaben]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

more info would help.

But either you don't have any eligible heirs for all the titles (or they have different heirs), or or have some form of gavelkind and multiple eligible heirs (which will split up some of your realm).

look , i was playing as king kurik or slavic vikings, i got this annoying notification of title loss. i have 4 successors with elective kavelking. i tried to give my oldest son all of my lands but i couldn't because the option of giving land disappeared and replaced by "revoke title" .

i tried to give another son other land but it gave him independent states instead !!!! why this happen?

[Blue Knight™]

Originally posted by fat gaben:

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

more info would help.

But either you don't have any eligible heirs for all the titles (or they have different heirs), or or have some form of gavelkind and multiple eligible heirs (which will split up some of your realm).

look , i was playing as king kurik or slavic vikings, i got this annoying notification of title loss. i have 4 successors with elective kavelking. i tried to give my oldest son all of my lands but i couldn't because the option of giving land disappeared and replaced by "revoke title" .

i tried to give another son other land but it gave him independent states instead !!!! why this happen?

its just saying your immediate heir will not get all your titles becuase of your sucession law


look up some guides on youtube

[kaiyl_kariashi]

if your other son became independant it's cause the title you gave him was equal to your own.

You can only have vassals of a lower teir.

you most likely have too many same teir titles, which will get split among your children.

Gavelkind also prevents you from giving a ton of land to your primary heir since that defeats the point of gavelkind. You can give some land to your 2ndry heirs, if you rather handle the distribution yourself instead of letting the succession council decide.

Elective Gavelkind is slightly worse than normal gavelkind in that it also gives the children a chance to declare independance on succession during certain circumstances and will auto-create available titles if the heir gets enough territory. (though you can also pick a different heir if you eldest is a moron or just really bad, so it's a bit of a trade off. You get the heir you want more easily but the succession is slightly more chaotic than under normal gavelkind).


Generally, with tribals, it's better go no further than 1 Kingdom until you reform and Feudalise, as this makes Gavelkind much more controllable.

You can add more territory once you can switch to something a bit more modern like Senority, until you've got the tech/laws for more advanced stuff).

[fat gaben]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

if your other son became independant it's cause the title you gave him was equal to your own.

You can only have vassals of a lower teir.

you most likely have too many same teir titles, which will get split among your children.

Gavelkind also prevents you from giving a ton of land to your primary heir since that defeats the point of gavelkind. You can give some land to your 2ndry heirs, if you rather handle the distribution yourself instead of letting the succession council decide.

Elective Gavelkind is slightly worse than normal gavelkind in that it also gives the children a chance to declare independance on succession during certain circumstances and will auto-create available titles if the heir gets enough territory. (though you can also pick a different heir if you eldest is a moron or just really bad, so it's a bit of a trade off. You get the heir you want more easily but the succession is slightly more chaotic than under normal gavelkind).


Generally, with tribals, it's better go no further than 1 Kingdom until you reform and Feudalise, as this makes Gavelkind much more controllable.

You can add more territory once you can switch to something a bit more modern like Senority, until you've got the tech/laws for more advanced stuff).

yes , now playing jerusalem and changed it to the eldest son inheritance. cuz i don't wanna wait for oldest son option to be availabe cuz i dont wanna lose terroritories.

dude i have around 1k hrs on eu4, but this ck2 is hardcore srsly

[Mr_Faorry]

[quote=fat gaben;1694919808757291554
look , i was playing as king kurik or slavic vikings, i got this annoying notification of title loss. i have 4 successors with elective kavelking. i tried to give my oldest son all of my lands but i couldn't because the option of giving land disappeared and replaced by "revoke title" .

i tried to give another son other land but it gave him independent states instead !!!! why this happen? [/quote]
You have elective gavelkind, your lands get split between your sons so when you die and play as your heir you only get a few titles and your brothers will get the others. You get claims on your brothers lands so you can revoke their titles freely if they're under you and if they are independant you can war them for the titles.
You son became independant because you gave them a title of the same tier as your highest, I assume you've still got the duke level title (petty king), and you gave out another duke level title, you'll want to form a kingdom before you give out duke level titles.

[Junosbetterhalf]

Originally posted by fat gaben:

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

if your other son became independant it's cause the title you gave him was equal to your own.

You can only have vassals of a lower teir.

you most likely have too many same teir titles, which will get split among your children.

Gavelkind also prevents you from giving a ton of land to your primary heir since that defeats the point of gavelkind. You can give some land to your 2ndry heirs, if you rather handle the distribution yourself instead of letting the succession council decide.

Elective Gavelkind is slightly worse than normal gavelkind in that it also gives the children a chance to declare independance on succession during certain circumstances and will auto-create available titles if the heir gets enough territory. (though you can also pick a different heir if you eldest is a moron or just really bad, so it's a bit of a trade off. You get the heir you want more easily but the succession is slightly more chaotic than under normal gavelkind).


Generally, with tribals, it's better go no further than 1 Kingdom until you reform and Feudalise, as this makes Gavelkind much more controllable.

You can add more territory once you can switch to something a bit more modern like Senority, until you've got the tech/laws for more advanced stuff).

yes , now playing jerusalem and changed it to the eldest son inheritance. cuz i don't wanna wait for oldest son option to be availabe cuz i dont wanna lose terroritories.

dude i have around 1k hrs on eu4, but this ck2 is hardcore srsly

It can be tough coming from EU4 or a.n.other strategy game, but at some point you'll realise that not having all the titles is a part of the game, not something to be constantly fighting with.

[Admod, the Equivocal]

Yeah. Coming from EU4 to CK2 makes me appreciate how much easier Eu4 is to manage things.

[SKull]

1: Have a son

2: Kill wife


There, solved!

[WoldyR]

you again? wow such a noob that complaints about events ask how to avoid titles being lost in succesion, what a noob, git gud

[Groso]

Get good noob lmao

[fat gaben]

Originally posted by SKull:

1: Have a son

2: Kill wife


There, solved!

i had to prison and kill my youngest 2 sons so all my precious titles go the heir ;((

am not proud of it tho