Title loss on succession

[Sator]

How can i keep my titles when i die

[XXIV]

The most direct ways are to change your succession law to what benefits you most and send your heirs into battles that they'll lose.

Either way, you'll have to get creative

[neaj]

it really depends on your succession laws...

Typically you get that alert when you have a lot of kids and you have gavelkind law, so you'll have to find ways to disqualify those children from inheriting: make them a bishop, have them join a holy order, die.

[B-Flow]

The "Titles Lost" on succession is a scary thing for novice players. Understand that at any point in time you get to play as only ONE person. That means that when you die, you carry on as ONE other person, and that person may not inherret EVERYTHING their predecessor had (several factors, mainly the sucession law currently in effect).

Now there are obvious reasons to keep growing your sphere of control and consolidating titles, and in the interest of game play you want to "hand down" all that hard work to your inheritor. There are many mechanisms to do this, but the genious of this game is just how well it captures the spirit of the period: heirs at odds with each other is just one of those facinating facits. Primogeniture (eldest inherits everything) seems like a no brainer, but it takes a while to get there (often several generations at least) and as you can imagine, everyone other than the eldest wont be happy. :)

[haidunia]

Also note that you will get the "title loss on succession" warning even when the "lost" titles will stay in your realm.
For instance, if your guy is a duke with say 3 counties and one duchy, your main heir will get the duchy title (as it's the highest held title you have) and the "core" county (where your capital is located basically), while the other 2 counties can be inherited by his brothers (if he has any)... Upon inheritence your main heir will "lose" those two counties as in he will not hold them personally, but they will stay under your control as your vassals.

Oh and: This doesn't apply for elective gavelkind IF the "lost" lands gives the inheriting brother(s) a large enough area of a de jure title of the same lvl as your own, then he (they) can chose to create their own duchy/kingdom title and become independent. You will still have a strong claim to these lands though, so if war is an option they're easy enough to take back.

[Admiral Obvious]

Originally posted by haidunia:

Also note that you will get the "title loss on succession" warning even when the "lost" titles will stay in your realm.
For instance, if your guy is a duke with say 3 counties and one duchy, your main heir will get the duchy title (as it's the highest held title you have) and the "core" county (where your capital is located basically), while the other 2 counties can be inherited by his brothers (if he has any)... Upon inheritence your main heir will "lose" those two counties as in he will not hold them personally, but they will stay under your control as your vassals.

Oh and: This doesn't apply for elective gavelkind IF the "lost" lands gives the inheriting brother(s) a large enough area of a de jure title of the same lvl as your own, then he (they) can chose to create their own duchy/kingdom title and become independent. You will still have a strong claim to these lands though, so if war is an option they're easy enough to take back.

They can't go for independent duchies unless the primary inheritor is getting a King tier title. Even then, in that case, you can usually just ask them to be your vassal, since unless they hate you, they're of your dynasty, culture, and probably De Jure (as it should be) vassal.

[haidunia]

Originally posted by Admiral Obvious:

They can't go for independent duchies unless the primary inheritor is getting a King tier title. Even then, in that case, you can usually just ask them to be your vassal, since unless they hate you, they're of your dynasty, culture, and probably De Jure (as it should be) vassal.

Ah, thanks for the correction, it's been a while since it happened to me so remembered it incorrectly it seems :)

[JBrown247]

don't worry about it too much. just make sure your heir is strong and you can get them back. Make sure you only have one of the highest titles (one kingdom if king/ one dutchy if a duke). It will take awhile to change government types to something better.

[Admiral Obvious]

Originally posted by JBrown247:

don't worry about it too much. just make sure your heir is strong and you can get them back. Make sure you only have one of the highest titles (one kingdom if king/ one dutchy if a duke). It will take awhile to change government types to something better.

Bonus points if your Heir has the "Strong" congenital trait.