Unable to Declare War Due to Raised Levies (That Are Not Raised).

[Cyrus]

Since a couple of hours play after todays update, I can't declare war on anybody as the game thinks I have raised levies - which I dont - merely my retinues.

It also appears to still be charging me for my raised levy from my income.

Is anybody else experiencing this / does anybody have any tips to troubleshoot and find out the cause or confirm its a bug (preferably without a complete reinstall)?




Edit: this is an ironman game btw

[Cyrus]

Okay, on reloading the game, I noticed my retinue had an odd number to it (something like 7264 troops). The levies tab still showed no raised levies, so I raised them (including vassals and fleets)then dropped them again. My retinues now stand at 6400, and I can declare war again.

Guessing this is a bug afterall, but whether its just at my end or wider I dont know.

[Xautos]

i noticed something the same when attacking another enemy earlier on, i had 1064 men, but on the battle screen on the left side it showed 1063 instead. same with enemies sieging yours as well.

[Varainger]

You might have inherited the raised levy.
Just a guess.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by Varainger:

You might have inherited the raised levy.
Just a guess.

thats still a bug if its not showing in my raised levies though.

[ShepherdOfCats]

Maybe a random vassal levy was raised. Unless I have a very local threat to deal with, such as nomadic raiders, I tend raise and dismiss levies from the military tab. You can even dismiss levies that are currently locked in movement, which you cannot do from the map.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by ShepherdOfCats:

Maybe a random vassal levy was raised. Unless I have a very local threat to deal with, such as nomadic raiders, I tend raise and dismiss levies from the military tab. You can even dismiss levies that are currently locked in movement, which you cannot do from the map.

As already stated - NO levies were raised visibly, or on the levies tab.

[Myth Alric]

If you select the army on the map and when you look at it, it will list each unit in the army(in which case their name will be 'levies from where ever' or something like that). If you do that can manually check if there are any levies in there. Since you already fixed it and it is on iron man, you can't really go back and check though.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by James:

If you select the army on the map and when you look at it, it will list each unit in the army(in which case their name will be 'levies from where ever' or something like that). If you do that can manually check if there are any levies in there. Since you already fixed it and it is on iron man, you can't really go back and check though.

id already done that. as said, the game showed no levies raised.

[DonJuanDoja]

Definitely had this happen...exactly as described. Gotta be a known bug by now... if someone reported it...

[Myth Alric]

Yeah it is just a bug then.

[SolidShark]

This is playing with a Nomadic faction, but should work with others. FIGURED IT OUT, problem SOLVED!

When a Khan becomes the Khagan, the ruler of all other Khans in the Khaganate (especially during war time), some of the older armies of the other Khans might pass over into the new Khagan's army and be technically considered "raised levies" , even though they don't appear anywhere else as levied (neither on the military screen on the left, military tab on the right, anywhere).

Here's how you fix it. First, make sure you disband any of your or vassal armies, fleets, mercenaries or religious orders. Select your main combined army of the Khagan (it should have all the troops from your horde, plus maybe a few more unknown troops which make your total army count a little higher for some reason than the total horde), once selected, one of the options on the right will be "split off special troops" (these are unknown troops that aren't part of the horde), after you click that, select "separate them from the horde." That should only be a few troops, in my case, it was 4, I clicked on "Disband", after which they were disbanded. Now the total horde troops number should match the total troops number, or be very close to it.

At this point, the game knows that I don't have any levied troops so I can declare war and attack new countries again!

[that guy]

I don't think I've had it happen before and I do know of something a little similar. Sometimes I raise ships from a county before giving the county away to someone. (Hey, ships are valuable when you're raiding!)

After enough time passes, the charge for the ships show up on my annual income tab as mercenaries but they don't show up on the army tab. Now this doesn't matter much to me since you can still declare war even when you have ships raised.

However, if I had raised troops from a county before giving it away then I might run into the situation described in this thread. So I guess such troops were mixed into your army of retinues and you just need to separate them out as per Solid Shark's instructions.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by that guy:

I don't think I've had it happen before and I do know of something a little similar. Sometimes I raise ships from a county before giving the county away to someone. (Hey, ships are valuable when you're raiding!)

After enough time passes, the charge for the ships show up on my annual income tab as mercenaries but they don't show up on the army tab. Now this doesn't matter much to me since you can still declare war even when you have ships raised.

However, if I had raised troops from a county before giving it away then I might run into the situation described in this thread. So I guess such troops were mixed into your army of retinues and you just need to separate them out as per Solid Shark's instructions.

No, it was a bug that was rectified on reloading the game and then raising / lowering levies. Pure buggage, nothing more.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by Cyrus:

No, it was a bug that was rectified on reloading the game and then raising / lowering levies. Pure buggage, nothing more.

Inheriting raised armies can happen with any kind of character and governmment.

That it was not displayed can happen especially though with non-levies.
I suspect either the hoding got destroyed, changed owner or the info simply had'n't updated yet, as these type of updates are not instant, though i'm not sure if raised levies from inherited territories get updated and included into your army stats at all before being lowered.
Hmm....
You could of course still report it if you like.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by Varainger:

Originally posted by Cyrus:

No, it was a bug that was rectified on reloading the game and then raising / lowering levies. Pure buggage, nothing more.

Inheriting raised armies can happen with any kind of character and governmment.

That it was not displayed can happen especially though with non-levies.
I suspect either the hoding got destroyed, changed owner or the info simply had'n't updated yet, as these type of updates are not instant, though i'm not sure if raised levies from inherited territories get updated and included into your army stats at all before being lowered.
Hmm....
You could of course still report it if you like.

No, none of that happened. if you bother to read the thread you'll see that.