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Can we please change "political concerns"?
The political concerns modifier for alliances and non-aggression pacts is just so vague, with no way to play around it besides somehow get everyone on a throne to be your kinsman, which is just silly and frankly it's just not a fun mechanic to be stopped from making pacts for no clear cut reason.
Maybe we can change it to be more like how the pope menu is for asking for papal boons and favors, that at least tells you directly and clearly why he will or will not do something. Also, as a side note I know a lot of people say it's because they or someone in their realm has a claim on your lands. To that I say if they don't even have a snowball's chance in hell of ever even taking a county from you it shouldn't be a factor, or at least reduce the penalty somewhat.
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Azunai Jun 2, 2019 @ 3:10am 
granted, the wording is somewhat vague, but "political concerns" always means that they have a CB against you. nothing else.
Red Dragon Jun 2, 2019 @ 3:58am 
Originally posted by Azunai:
granted, the wording is somewhat vague, but "political concerns" always means that they have a CB against you. nothing else.

Is that also the case for denying betroathals and marriages? Because they don't want to lose a CB on you due to the resulting non-aggression pact?

Edit: Oh okay the wiki says that is indeed the case. Good to know.
Last edited by Red Dragon; Jun 2, 2019 @ 4:02am
Azunai Jun 2, 2019 @ 4:04am 
yes if they turn down an offered marriage NAP due to political concerns, they have a CB against you
Red Dragon Jun 2, 2019 @ 4:08am 
Originally posted by Azunai:
yes if they turn down an offered marriage NAP due to political concerns, they have a CB against you
I assume it's only specific types of CBs though. Probably any CB that is based on title claims?
I mean everyone has a CB to make someone else their Tributary and there is the Single County conquest CB from Jade Dragon etc.

Do you know if a CB due to being able to press a courtiers claim on one of your titles also counts? In that case plotting agains that courtier may be very helpful.
Last edited by Red Dragon; Jun 2, 2019 @ 4:09am
Azunai Jun 2, 2019 @ 4:15am 
don't know for sure which CB are taken into account.

if i had to take a guess, it's probably CB based on claims of the dynasty. i don't think AI rulers care much about the claims of their (non dynastic) courtiers
Originally posted by Azunai:
granted, the wording is somewhat vague, but "political concerns" always means that they have a CB against you. nothing else.
Yeah I was pretty sure it was due to having claims, I still think that it shouldn't be an almost certain blocker though. They should at least take into consideration the powers levels between you and them when you have like 30k troops over them or something.
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Date Posted: Jun 1, 2019 @ 8:57pm
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