Crusader Kings II

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GojiraTX Jul 9, 2019 @ 2:50pm
Eldership Succession Law Bug
I started a game as a Romuvan Prussian at the 769 start. My first character started with the Eldership succession law and i never changed it. Then, about a 100 years later, my current King, who was still Romuvan, died and a kinsman who worshiped Germanic was elected. Suddenly i noticed the breaking shield icon pop up. It had never shown up before. When i went to the Laws tab to see what was going on, i found that something had ♥♥♥♥ed up. The succession law still said Eldership, and that mechanic was still functioning, but Eldership's description text was replaced with Gavelkind's description, and on some level Gavelkind's mechanics had become active alongside Eldership's, because tho the heir to the Kingdom was another member of the family outside of my current Germanic-turned-Romuvan King's direct family, several of my titles and most of my land will be going to his newborn son if my King dies, like it would if Gavelkind were in effect. What the actual ♥♥♥♥ is going on here? Why would someone of a different religion inheriting ♥♥♥♥ up the succession laws so severely? And is there any way to fix this before this playthrough is just completely ruined? I'm playing Ironman so i cant just go back to before this happened, and it probably wouldn't matter much if i could.
Last edited by GojiraTX; Jul 9, 2019 @ 2:51pm
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Porco Malo Jul 10, 2019 @ 1:42am 
the unreformed germanic faith doesn't allow eldership? try: conversion and/or murder.
galadon3 Jul 10, 2019 @ 2:07am 
For fixes: well its not nice but try to get the kid killed. And it wouldn't really ruin the playthrough, just give you a bit of a setback.
If you can't prevent the splitting, amass money, strengthen the provinces your primary heir gets and max out your retinue (money and retinue always go 100% to the main heir), after the inheritance just get the lost lands back, with a big retinue and a lot of money your primary heir should be strong enough to beat his little brother.
GojiraTX Jul 10, 2019 @ 6:16am 
Originally posted by renos:
the unreformed germanic faith doesn't allow eldership? try: conversion and/or murder.
I did convert the Germanic King back to Romuvan. Didn't fix anything.
GojiraTX Jul 10, 2019 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by galadon3:
For fixes: well its not nice but try to get the kid killed. And it wouldn't really ruin the playthrough, just give you a bit of a setback.
If you can't prevent the splitting, amass money, strengthen the provinces your primary heir gets and max out your retinue (money and retinue always go 100% to the main heir), after the inheritance just get the lost lands back, with a big retinue and a lot of money your primary heir should be strong enough to beat his little brother.
I can't just turn every new king I get celibate. That won't solve the problem. The problem being that 2 seperate succession laws have glitched together somehow because Paradox apparently didn't consider what would happen if a ruler was elected by Eldership who's religion didn't allow Eldership.
corisai Jul 10, 2019 @ 6:35am 
Originally posted by GojiraTX:
I did convert the Germanic King back to Romuvan. Didn't fix anything.

Did you tried to save&reload AFTER converting him? If it will not help (and succession laws are forbidden to change as it still "eldership") - next solution is reformation or editing your save (dunno if it will keep ironman & achievements enabled).

Originally posted by GojiraTX:
I can't just turn every new king I get celibate.

Send your kids to correct guardians so they will never gain foreigner faith?

Also you can control marriages of unlanded members of your dynasty.

Plus keep elders happy so they will pick your candidate (yes, it's cost of being free from gavelkind since start).
Last edited by corisai; Jul 10, 2019 @ 6:36am
Zorzy Oct 8, 2020 @ 4:57am 
It's an old bug. First time I've encountered it was when I was playing with african animists. Have created kingdom, reformed religion and created empire. After that the game treated every succession law I've chosen as gavelkind. Although the game changes the queue of the claimants and successors in the window, after death everything is again divided per gavelkind laws.
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Date Posted: Jul 9, 2019 @ 2:50pm
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