Way to take land thats already occupied?

[Jet]

Is it possible? so these two other tribals started picking the carcass i was trying to take and just because they got there first i am not able to take the land I have the superior numbers to claim. The damn traitors arent even hostile to me because i have a non aggression pact with their liege i cant raid to break them. Even still I dont suppose I can take what theyve stolen through sieges? Very problematic given I used an invasion cb and I want very specific territory

[Myth Alric]

If you capture their leader, you can force him to surrender.

[Jet]

Originally posted by James:

If you capture their leader, you can force him to surrender.

problem is i want as much land as possible since i used an invasion cb which lets me take everything ive occupied. but neutral occupied land before i got there and i cant attack them or siege their theft

[bri]

Originally posted by Jet:

Originally posted by James:

If you capture their leader, you can force him to surrender.

problem is i want as much land as possible since i used an invasion cb which lets me take everything ive occupied. but neutral occupied land before i got there and i cant attack them or siege their theft

Your only hope is for them to make peace before you do without taking the land.

[Karlington]

You can declare war on the neutrals, or if you have a troop that was set to raiding before the war, you can just move it onto their land for a day to make you mutually hostile.

You can't turn on looting once a war starts, but armies that were already set to it will stay that way. I always keep retinues on looting in peace time for that reason. :)

[Jet]

Originally posted by bri:

Originally posted by Jet:

problem is i want as much land as possible since i used an invasion cb which lets me take everything ive occupied. but neutral occupied land before i got there and i cant attack them or siege their theft

Your only hope is for them to make peace before you do without taking the land.

it was ♥♥♥♥♥♥ because they also stole my battle warscore when they attatched to my army they mustve gotten there before i did because i didnt get any warscore for two major battles. Ontop of that once the horde had no land left they instantly got to 100 warscore before i did. RIP

Originally posted by Karlshammar:

You can declare war on the neutrals, or if you have a troop that was set to raiding before the war, you can just move it onto their land for a day to make you mutually hostile.

You can't turn on looting once a war starts, but armies that were already set to it will stay that way. I always keep retinues on looting in peace time for that reason. :)

you also cant break a NAP mid war(unless its a betrothal maybe) so im double screwed

[Karlington]

Originally posted by Jet:

you also cant break a NAP mid war(unless its a betrothal maybe) so im double screwed

Oh, right. Sorry, my bad. :(