Claiming Dragon Throne

[Vanity]

How big realm and army you need to beat china and get throne?

[Echnaton]

in addition: is it worth it?

[Yograin]

From the Wiki:

The most serious hostile action is a full-scale invasion of China to install a claimant of your dynasty onto the Dragon Throne. This will cause massive Chinese armies to appear on your borders which in total will number more than 100,000 troops to come into your land while you suffer serious levy debuffs to represents your troops fighting in China.

If you succeed, you will install the claimant which will grant you a massive amount of grace and a very large monthly grace gain of ten. Your dynasty is guaranteed to survive for 200 years.

[Vanity]

Originally posted by Yograin:

From the Wiki:

The most serious hostile action is a full-scale invasion of China to install a claimant of your dynasty onto the Dragon Throne. This will cause massive Chinese armies to appear on your borders which in total will number more than 100,000 troops to come into your land while you suffer serious levy debuffs to represents your troops fighting in China.

If you succeed, you will install the claimant which will grant you a massive amount of grace and a very large monthly grace gain of ten. Your dynasty is guaranteed to survive for 200 years.

WTF more than 100 000 lol i thinked about 30-50k

[Echnaton]

Serious levy debuffs... I read something about -75% levy, so be prepared.

But is it worth it?

[Yograin]

I think its Levy Reinforcement not Levy itself.

Chinese Artifacts and Personnel have some nice bonuses so I will surely conquer them.

[OvErMiNd]

it's not 100K but 175k + what they already have on the map + their vassals states

When you win, you have 5000 of grace and the possible demand to China to attack a kingdom and destroy it if they win.
but at this point if you have defeated China, you can beat anyone ... so it's not very useful, it's just for fun

[Echnaton]

Is it possible to attack the western protectoriat without getting China involved?

[Vanity]

You can earn 5000 grace without attack china and make them attack. I playing Abyssinia and make China attack and shatter Abbassids so i conquered Arabia easy and create Empire of Jerusalem.

[OvErMiNd]

Originally posted by Johno:

You can earn 5000 grace without attack china and make them attack. I playing Abyssinia and make China attack and shatter Abbassids so i conquered Arabia easy and create Empire of Jerusalem.

you can also but you have to farm 5000 while when you invade and win, you have it instantly

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1262661856

[Zednaught]

Originally posted by OvErMiNd:

it's not 100K but 175k + what they already have on the map + their vassals states

When you win, you have 5000 of grace and the possible demand to China to attack a kingdom and destroy it if they win.
but at this point if you have defeated China, you can beat anyone ... so it's not very useful, it's just for fun

The army China sends scales to your realm size (bad design imo) so if you have a decent sized empire that's enough. The big thing is that they don't take attrition, but they also can't win the war by occupying your land alone. So, wait for them and pick of their smaller groups one by one.

[Fellow]

Tbh, I once attacked them having about 200k levies or so and they only had 192k. So while it scales to your army size, I do believe there is a limit as to how much they can get.

[Mr_Faorry]

What happens if you successfully invade china then export to EU4? Do you own China? Are you in a personal Union with it? Or does China just get your Dynasty name and nothing else?