Reliable plot power.

[League of Legends]

I’ve had a plot backed by me and another person + my spymaster with a spynetwork to have a plot with a strength of 120% to assinate my king as a duke. But in his whole lifetime of my character the king was never assinated. How strong do my plots need to be to work like at what percent are they the most reliable to happen?

[DeadRabbit]

You just got bad luck, plot power is just the chance and speed that the plot is going to fire, but if the event that fires doesn’t succeed, they won’t die.

[League of Legends]

Originally posted by Friendly Nea:

You just got bad luck, plot power is just the chance and speed that the plot is going to fire, but if the event that fires doesn’t succeed, they won’t die.

Well my seemingly never fired because I never got any event on it. Is there a sorta of consensus or meta for what percent strength your plots should have?

[Varainger]

Percentage doesn't say that much.
Number of characters involved makes attempts much more likely, just as it makes it more likely to be discovered, but if the target is paranoid for instance, then it might never even trigger, though going by the (outdated) Wiki article traits only influence success chance of an attempt, but my experience is different from that. Maybe i'm biased, maybe the author was wrong.
See for yourself: https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/Assassination

[DeadRabbit]

I also forgot to mention “In Hiding” and “In Seclusion” both of these modifiers drastically decrease your chance to get your plot to fire.

[League of Legends]

Thanks guess that just means I have to bribe more people or could I use a favor that I earned with somebody to get an extra backer in my plot? Also sorry another question does intrigue just increase percent chance or other people willing to back your plot? Also how important is having a spy master having a spy network in the land of the person I have a plot to kill?

[runifoc]

Originally posted by Cybernetic Old Man:

Thanks guess that just means I have to bribe more people :waaagh: or could I use a favor that I earned with somebody to get an extra backer in my plot? Also sorry another question does intrigue just increase percent chance or other people willing to back your plot? Also how important is having a spy master having a spy network in the land of the person I have a plot to kill?

Intrigue is your ability to manipulate others and scheming. Higher intrigue increases the plot power you bring to a plot and decreases the power of plots against you. It also increases your chance of imprisoning others and avoiding imprisonment yourself.

People with the following traits are more likely to join a murder plot: arbitrary, paranoid, cruel, greedy, wroth, envious, impaler, or cannibal. Generally, a person has to like you more than they do the target in order to join your plot. Giving bribes is a good way to woo potential participants.

IIRC, having the spymaster build a spy network in the target's province adds 0.5% to the plot power for each intrigue point the spymaster has.

[al_x_ator2411]

Plot power just shows the probability of a murder plot to fire. The incease in probability happens every 50%, though. So a 120% power isn't greater than 100%. You need to to go to 150% to actually up the chances. Keep that in mind when considering how many people to bribe or invite to join.

And it's also best to have a few people with high plot power (like the target's spymaster & spouse) than invite many people with just 5%. Who will agree to join is mostly based on their traits and how much they like you vs the target. In that regard personal diplomacy is sometimes better than a high intrigue skill.

Having said all that, there's a lot of randomness/RNG involved. I have managed to murder people with only 100% plot power while with 250% the event never fired. You'll also discover that sometimes an emperor is easier to kill than a baron (that's because of how many potential plotters are under them as vassals and courtiers).

[that guy]

Don't know if it still happens after 2.8, but in versions 2.7.2 and older your assassination plot sometimes gets bugged. This happens when after a successful plot to assassinate someone but before the plot gets terminated, a plotter offers to assassinate you.

If that happens, you need to start and then cancel an assassination plot (the target doesn't matter) or else your next assassination plot will never fire.

[League of Legends]

Ye thanks you guys just assinated a 4 year old by drowning him in a bathtub! Then I made the balcony fall off when my liege the kids Dad came over. Lmao

[MCchill]

The more plot power you have over 100% lessens the likelihood of getting caught and causes the plot to active quicker.

[Jerubius]

I recall hearing there are specific thresholds at 100% and 200% that increase the frequency it checks whether a plot should fire, which drastically increases the likelihood of it occuring.