female ruler to lose all titles in succession (no heir)

[AP]

i am a female ruler and I married myself into the first in line of succession for france, but the game says i will lose everything to my son and the game will end, even though he is my heir as well as frances heir. is there something i could be doing wrong?

[Fellow]

Was it matrilineal marriage? Cause if not then that means your son is of another dynasty and the way ck2 works means you play a dynasty, not a line.

[AP]

how do i fix this?

[kinkerbel]

Originally posted by snowing:

how do i fix this?

If you are still under 35, quickly divorce your current husband and marry a very fertile young bloke. Try and get that non- matrillineal son killed (make him lead an army or something, or ship him to a county with disease) or change succesion laws to ultimogeniture so your youngest nonpatrilineal son gets the title.

If you are over 35 and still have family members like brothers that are in the line of succession, try and kill off all your non- matrillinial sons and daughters.(give them cancer, make them lead armies, send to the regions with black death or other diseases)

[haidunia]

You can still have children up to 45, so even over 35 getting a new (fertile) husband is worth it.

[al_x_ator2411]

If there are other people of your dynasty living you can also switch succession law to Seniority.

[ZeratulR]

Just to reiterate what has probably become clear by now, your heir must always be of your dynasty or it's game over (well, there are some exceptions, you may just lose some of your titles).

Hoping that your son dies is a gamble since you can't plot to kill him directly. Your best bet is changing succession laws. Seniority is ok if you have other members of your dynasty and ultimogeniture will do if you can produce sons of your dynasty (gavelkind is technically an option as well if you have dynastic sons). Although I would personaly go for elective monarchy since it's the best succession law anyway.

Just to be clear all of this doesn't mean that your next character will be a king (or queen) of France. We are talking about the succession of your primary title (which, I assume based on first post, is not the kingdom of France). Succession of France is a completely different thing.

[AP]

so since i did not choose matrilineal marriage there is no way for that son to become my character. i have to do any of the methods described so that i can keep playing as my title, on a different character.

thanks!

[ZeratulR]

Originally posted by snowing:

so since i did not choose matrilineal marriage there is no way for that son to become my character. i have to do any of the methods described so that i can keep playing as my title, on a different character.

thanks!

That's probably the most fundamental principal of the game mechanichs: you can't play as a character who is not of your dynasty. Period. Effectively, "you" are not your character, "you" are your character's dynasty.

[klionh87]

Well, unless you are playing an Ironman game, there's nothing stopping you from loading the save and simply picking your non-dynasty heir as the playing character.

You'll need to land him first though - any county will do - and then switch over while your current character is still alive, to avoid the gameover. Then when your parents die you'll inherit their stuff and keep going as King.

Not a standard CK2 play - but it's your game, your choice.

Of course all the above is not possible while playing Ironman - such is life :D

[ZeratulR]

Originally posted by klionh87:

Well, unless you are playing an Ironman game, there's nothing stopping you from loading the save and simply picking your non-dynasty heir as the playing character.

"Unless you are playing an ironman game"... Can't he just enter the cheat code to win the game? It's basically the same thing as not playing ironman...

[Mentos]

Originally posted by ZeratulR:

Originally posted by klionh87:

Well, unless you are playing an Ironman game, there's nothing stopping you from loading the save and simply picking your non-dynasty heir as the playing character.

"Unless you are playing an ironman game"... Can't he just enter the cheat code to win the game? It's basically the same thing as not playing ironman...

Ffs, you sound like one of those religious morons that say BUT IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD HOW CAN YOU HAVE MORALS!?

Just because you don't play ironman doesn't mean youre a cheater or that the game is pointless. I can't play ironman. I have HIP. Sometimes you need the console anyway, for situations like this. We don't all play this game like it's age of empires. Some of us want to see the game through to the end, in a realistic believable fashion. Losing some place in between because the game decided to kill your heir through disease is dissappointing.

[ZeratulR]

Originally posted by Sir_Keksalot:

Originally posted by ZeratulR:

"Unless you are playing an ironman game"... Can't he just enter the cheat code to win the game? It's basically the same thing as not playing ironman...

Ffs, you sound like one of those religious morons that say BUT IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD HOW CAN YOU HAVE MORALS!?

I don't see how it's connected to the present discussion but the concept of morals without belief in a higher power is frankly ludicrious. I mean, you are the piece of meat that is rotting every second of its existence. Then you die and start to rot slightly faster. It's silly to think that there is anything worth living in it if there is no God given soul...

Anyway... Seeing the game to the end in the realistic ironman fashion is what makes it interesting! I got my character imprisoned for no reason, killed by pneumonia, killed by poor hygiene (which is all hygiene in the time when the game takes place), killed in battle, killed by some weird plot... What's the point if I could have simply rerolled it all?

[Kayeka]

Another possibility is to quickly push for a different form of inheritance law, such as Seniority or Elective, allowing you to pick a different heir of your dynasty.

[AP]

that you for the suggestions, i had not even considered landing him and then switching character on loading in. i will not make this mistake again

[Fellow]

He can also just execute everyone until the next in line is of your dynasty!