Orthodox church tax or levy them?

[Scottx125]

As the title says.

[al_x_ator2411]

I'd really like to know too since I never played Orthodox since buying Conclave.

[runifoc]

Tax. There is no pope to steal your bishops' tax money.

[Scottx125]

Originally posted by runifoc:

Tax. There is no pope to steal your bishops' tax money.

So the levy is near to worthless?

[Meyro]

Originally posted by Scottx125:

Originally posted by runifoc:

Tax. There is no pope to steal your bishops' tax money.

So the levy is near to worthless?

They provide little levy which isn't as strong as feudal levies. That makes it likely that you benefit more from increased income that can be used to upgrade castles and pay for retinues (and emergency mercenaries if you need them)

[al_x_ator2411]

Of course it woudln't be advisable to turn the slider all the way to tax for either bishops or mayors since that slows down the development of the holding.

[Liberty Prime]

My general rule is to put feudal and tribal to max levies. City and church taxes to max usually for me. Yes it might slow down development but by the time I ever actually get to that point the cities are already pretty well developed. Also I'm a greedy a$$hol.

As far as priorities, I prioritize maxing out feudal levies then I prioritize city then church taxes. Tribal just gets the leftovers.

[Scottx125]

Originally posted by al_x_ator2411:

Of course it woudln't be advisable to turn the slider all the way to tax for either bishops or mayors since that slows down the development of the holding.

You can always develope it yourself.

[al_x_ator2411]

Originally posted by Scottx125:

You can always develope it yourself.

I always own two big duchies so it takes a lot of micromanagement to keep checking all my minor vassal holdings.

And I do put the slider towards taxes quite a lot just not all the way.

[ZombieHunter]

Max or near max taxes for Burghers and Priests or Church. Max or near max Levies for Nobles. Pay off your priests so they like you more than the Pope. Pay off your Mayors so they like you and give you your just due in taxes.

[kaiyl_kariashi]

I usually keep them balanced since they give a good amount of both troops and tax.

Also their troops don't has a good of a spread of types that feudal does but also do have decent troops, so It's usually fine unless you absolutely NEED bodies to meet a siege target.

republics and feudal are generally the only goes i go extremes on since they absolutely suck at one while being great at the other.

Now as catholic, I'd probably go levy based to keep as much ducats within the realm as possible for upgrading holdings, since if they pay low/no taxes they pay the pope low/no taxes. And if they do happen to like me more, well that's some extra troops for me.

[Scottx125]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

I usually keep them balanced since they give a good amount of both troops and tax.

Also their troops don't has a good of a spread of types that feudal does but also do have decent troops, so It's usually fine unless you absolutely NEED bodies to meet a siege target.

republics and feudal are generally the only goes i go extremes on since they absolutely suck at one while being great at the other.

Now as catholic, I'd probably go levy based to keep as much ducats within the realm as possible for upgrading holdings, since if they pay low/no taxes they pay the pope low/no taxes. And if they do happen to like me more, well that's some extra troops for me.

Well if your catholic the ideal thing to do is max their taxes, and then you get lots of money from the pope. But tbh while the troops are good and the money is ok, the levy from castles in the capital are best.

[Red Earth]

Originally posted by kaiyl_kariashi:

Now as catholic, I'd probably go levy based to keep as much ducats within the realm as possible for upgrading holdings, since if they pay low/no taxes they pay the pope low/no taxes. And if they do happen to like me more, well that's some extra troops for me.

Wait, that's how it works? The bishops pay the same tax rate set by you whether it's to you or the pope? I assumed they paid some pope-rate, but it if I still set the rate, then better they keep their money when they aren't supporting me and upgrade their troop building for later when they are.