I’m sorry but the cost of CK2 is ridiculous

[Obsid1anWolf]

Paradox Paradox Paradox....

You know a while back I looked at Crusader Kings 2 and it seemed really amazing. I have been waiting or that day for a collection at a reasonable price. That day will never happen. You are excluding a lot of customers because your buy in is a ripoff. Some people will argue, only buy what you want to use. My opinion is that is completely unreasonable. $120 at a steep discount is absurd. As much as I want to, I will never buy this game.

There was a day when you could buy games and you could try out all the options. Or buy an expansion that included a large number of options and try them all to your hearts content. Now we are stuck in this bull*** age where you have to buy little pieces. They sell you the bones, and you gotta buy the rest of the pieces. Don’t pick the wrong items or you are on the hook to start over.

I understand you have put yourselves in a difficult position. How do you are an underhanded move to all of those that have supported you thus far? I have no idea, good luck with that one.

I urge all gamers to top supporting this strategy. Band together and force developers to release full expansions.

[76109108007942031]

The base game was apparently good enough for them to bother making DLC for it, so I don't think you have to buy all the DLC.

[Maal]

Back in the days you'd buy an xpac a year for 30$, now you buy 2 for 15$. Sure it look expensive now, but that's because you are looking at 5 years worth of stuff in one shot. A lot of people bought them over several years. You could do just like them and only buy one or two dlc per year, wouldn't be so bad, no?

Cometic DLC are not needed. If you do not plan on touching muslim/pagans/jews/india/china/republics, then don't buy those. This is not pokemon, you do not need to buy em all. Just play the base game that's been improved for 5 years with consecutives free patches and if you like it then slowy buy DLC to unlock stuff that interest you.

[76109108007942031]

Originally posted by MrRugila:

Good luck telling people to stop enjoying something they enjoy immensely. You can urge people all you want but it will ultimately amount to nothing.

Yes this is something that's important to point outl. I picked up Crusader Kings because I wanted to play a historical dynasty-simulator, and as long as Paradox supplies me with such a game I'll support them until I either go broke or find a better game.

[Obsid1anWolf]

Originally posted by Æthelred the Unready:

The base game was apparently good enough for them to bother making DLC for it, so I don't think you have to buy all the DLC.

Sure I don’t have to buy it all, but I like to try lots of different things out. It is a shame the game is so heavily parted out.

[Eelectrica]

Off you go then. The game as it stands is due to close to 6 years of additional content packs and updates.
$120 for the complete pack is a bargain.

[knifemind]

Originally posted by Obsid1anWolf:

Sure I don’t have to buy it all, but I like to try lots of different things out. It is a shame the game is so heavily parted out.

It's not parted out. The game was complete from the get go. I think it's nice to see a great game strongly supported after nearly 6 years. Grand Strategy games are a much smaller market than most genres. People have no issues buying the next big multi-player fps every year (at full price), but somehow supporting a dev for supporting their game is wrong?

Wait until the package is 75%off. It's not that uncommon and usually has everything except the most recent expansion.

[SKN The LISPer]

Originally posted by Obsid1anWolf:

Originally posted by Æthelred the Unready:

The base game was apparently good enough for them to bother making DLC for it, so I don't think you have to buy all the DLC.

Sure I don’t have to buy it all, but I like to try lots of different things out. It is a shame the game is so heavily parted out.

As Knifemind said, the game isn't parted out. Without any dlc's you'll have no problems with the game, I've personally only been playing the game with about half the DLCs(Primarily charlemagne and Old gods) for years without feeling like it was a limited or broken experience(even with all the free patches adding new content).

And in this sale I picked up the rest. While the differences are noticable(and in some ways, completely changes the way the game played, especially in term of laws, vassals and councils), they are by no means required to experience or enjoying the game.


I'd argue the DLC's in Ck2 are less important than the expansions for the The Sims series(Which haven't been given a collection since Sims 2).

[76109108007942031]

Originally posted by Obsid1anWolf:

Originally posted by Æthelred the Unready:

The base game was apparently good enough for them to bother making DLC for it, so I don't think you have to buy all the DLC.

Sure I don’t have to buy it all, but I like to try lots of different things out. It is a shame the game is so heavily parted out.

Does every single faction and event in the game interest you? I was only really interested in Christians, Pagans and Republics so I just got the appropriate DLC's, and saved money by avoiding all the factions that I didn't really care for.

[Captiva]

I agree with OP that the price is too high. I own all but song DLC, and just put down 25 on the jade dlc and monks and stuff too.

I have owned the game for years and slowly spent money on it though. To try and get into it now is almost a nightmare cost wise.

I would not expect a "complete" pack or anything like it though untill they actually complete the game. I would be fine with them bundling up all but the last few DLC and selling them at a 60 or less price point, but I highly doubt that will happen soon.

Best advice is to drop about 30 - 40 and get the most important stuff, and learn to play game and pick up rest later on sale. Do not need all the dlc to enjoy the game.

[Red Earth]

I could not give less of a ♥♥♥♥ about what people think is too much money. I bought it on sale, later I bought DLC on sale, then I bought new DLC at full price. All my choice. It cost them money to make new expansions so it costs me money to get them.
You made your choice, now live with it. Complaining doesn't make you a hero. Y'all just cheap.

And I am not sorry.

[MrBonkers]

Another ck2 is too expensive thread? Dude go and ♥♥♥♥ yourself - this has been discussed to death...most think for a game thats over 5 years old and permanently supported (even with free patches) it is justified..
If aoe2 had 20 expansions would you complain about the price?

[⎛⎝kingj0n⎠⎞]

Use the brain. Buy on sale.
That's what most people do when they don't want to spend money.
The game is relatively cheap that way.

I bought nearly all of the DLCs.
Just the last two I haven't. I didn't feel the need to. And of course, songs and unit packs. I bought all the portriats. I'll buy the latest two when they're really on sale.
The reason I don't pay full price anymore is due to the fact that I just don't play games anymore.
But, I love CKII.

[rudolphust]

You dont need to buy al DLC, I did buy the dynasty starter pack for € 28 with 5 DLC a bargian and have tons of fun with it

Also they have sale now by paradox for CK2 with 5 DLC € 20

[LordOfDarkFlame]

ive boycotted them for years because of the ridiculous ripoff pricing. And I'm sitting on 1300 games + 1300 DLC.

All these ripoff pricepoints do is encourage free downloading of the game....

[quarre]

120$ for such game is a steal. Wanna talk about prices? 5500 Crown Pack for Elder Scrolls Online costs 40$, and you need 2 of those for purchasing Mushroom Tower house, which is cheapest of Noble-grade houses and avaliable for real money only.

Or GetAmped 2, where you need to spend about 2000$ to get cool weapons, since most of those are in Draw machines and work kinda as casino. 20$ is 2000C = 5 draws, which is 1 good weapon at best.

The thing is CK2 is old, its a game back from 2012. 120$/7 years = 17$ per year. For God's sake, WoW subscribtion only to get access to game you purchased for full price is 10$ per month.

What a crybaby bum you are.