Moving council members

[dbemont]

Just started, and my chancellor isn't very highly skilled, but when the chaplain died, I realized the chancellor would make an excellent chaplain.

So... seeing no option to move a council member, I fired him and figure to immediately name him chaplain. But he is missing from the list of choices.

Is there some rule here that I don't know about?

[Valentine Michael Smith]

you have to wait a couple years to rehire a guy. It's kind of an annoying change. If you want to change positions next time right click their portrait and you should have a "change council position" option to use.

[Jiks]

If a council member is fired there is a cool-down before they will accept any other positions, or indeed, the same one.

There is an option to move them to another position. IIRC right click on their portrait. I can't remember if a position needs to be vacant before that option will appear though.

[dbemont]

Thanks. I guess I somehow overlooked that option to move him to another position.

That firing him has serious consequences for my relationship with him makes sense. But I did not know about this rule.

[dbemont]

I'm looking again, and I just cannot see any option under the right click menu for changing council position.

[lunamo]

Only a few people can be court chaplain.Barons,counts,dukes etc cant.

[al_x_ator2411]

You right click on the character's portait and click the option "change council position." But I think it needs the Conclave DLC. And most feudal lords are not eligible to be chaplains.

[dbemont]

I definitely have Conclave DLC loaded. The guy I am looking at is the only person currently in the council, he's a bishop serving as a chancellor (diplomacy skill of 3... nice) and I right click on his portrait:
revoke title
award honorary title
send gift
imprison
arrange marriage
arrange betrothal
take concubine
request council support
plot to kill
mark descendants (from a mod)

grayed out:
grant landed title
appoint councillor
appoint commander
request invasion
request excommunication
grant independence

I've gotta be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what.

[al_x_ator2411]

Unfortunately the Wiki isn't much help. The apropriate section is empty.

[quarre]

You can "fire" any landless councellor without any consequences, like -opinion or cooldown, by giving him any landed title.

[Jiks]

My only guess here is the mod is causing problems.

I've just tested every combination landed/unlanded/male/female characters in all of the 7 council positions available to me. In all cases both off the "Positions" & "My Council" screens the "Change Council Position" option appears below "Plot to kill"

I'd try turning the mod off to test, apart from anything else it could be breaking other stuff...

[dbemont]

Okay, I think I got to the bottom of the problem. Turning off the mods did not resolve the problem, but the problem disappeared when I quit using the player editor.

Really this is a major problem with the player editor DLC. It seems to make a mess of your council, so that as you start the game you get a bunch of messages about people no longer being on your council. I thought that that was simply because your creation of a new character replaced all members of the historical dynasty... but it seems to be more than that.

Anyway, as soon as I quit using the character editor, I regained the ability to switch council positions.

[Jiks]

Glad to hear you solved it.

I play with that thing turned off simply because it disables Steam acheivements so wasn't aware of any other havoc it creates. Good to know for when this comes up again.

[dbemont]

I'm just disappointed because I like to name my own dynasty.