Crusader Kings II

Crusader Kings II

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of Anwyl 2017 年 6 月 24 日 下午 10:46
Is This Game Worth Getting Base Game Only?
Hello everyone. I'm really intersted in CKII and love EuIV but only have enough money to buy the base game at the moment. Is the base game very fun without dlcs or do you thinkI should wait? Thanks for any and all advice!
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Gorgeous_Joe 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 4:02 
As you have EU4 already you can also get the bridging tool/dlc that allows you to begin play in CK2 and carry on into EU4 with your current timeline......kingdoms.....empires etc. It gives it a whole expanded universe theme so with no CK3 on the horizen anytime soon it would be worth the buy for you.

Some would also say the Vanilla base game is great on its own and all the dlc's have made it a little bit messy along the 5 years it been going so starting with just the Vanilla and no dlc would be the best choice.
Charlememe 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 4:21 
The base game will be enough for you for a long while, I do recommend you get some dlcs like Way of Life early though as they add a lot of flavor to the game, that tends to be more fun for new players.
MythTrip 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 4:23 
Price of the game is still $40 three years after release cause its well worth it, its an all time grand strategy classic. Most games are half off three months after release. Nothing out there matches it. Look how hot these forums are, game is still going strong. Save a few bucks and buy this, you'll be happy for years.

Base game without the DLC's is great, as are most of the DLC's. Hurry up and buy it, get ready for a learning curve, but be prepared, you will love this one.
FunkyRomero 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 4:24 
I dont know ... 2012 game that costs 120€ when DISCOUNTED :D

Combined with the FU business practices, I think not.

What a shame :(
Charlememe 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 4:27 
引用自 FunkyRomero
I dont know ... 2012 game that costs 120€ when DISCOUNTED :D

Combined with the FU business practices, I think not.

What a shame :(

I think you've forgot the part where the game and all dlc go on sale practically every month, and how there's been constant updates and development on the game over the whole five year period. Only MMOs and some, few AAA games get as much development.
CMDR Herne 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:05 
Absolutely worth it. Play it for a few months and then top up with any dlc if you feel the need to when it goes on sale yet again.
pi73r 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:19 
Well, it's good but you will bget bored fast and you will want to buy dlcs.
With vanilla only you are basically playing the same/very similar game with each playthrough (christian feudal you only decide whether to start count/duke/king/emperor), I think you can play vanilla byzantine too.
最後修改者:pi73r; 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:26
quarre 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 6:49 
You always can buy base game and play with mods.
frobisher 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 7:02 
Get the base game using one of the multiple sales, might as well devolve it to one of the earliest iterations too - if only to avoid performance issues (India) and to pace yourself with figuring out how newer features work.

You will be getting weeks of gameplay within "standard" European setting alone. Once you get bored with "typical knights", get some of the earlier DLCs, enhancing Byzantines, Norse or whatever you like, then patch the game to the state it was in before the next major DLC.

Repeat.

Before you run out of things to play with, any DLCs that increase depth of the game will get a major sale or two. Buy, patch and so on. Optionally: laugh at people who cry about CK2 being an expensive game, while yourself paying small percentage of the nominal price, like any sane person can.

Or, in other words, try something that resembles a journey a person playing this game from its release had. Luckily, you can still get it through older versions that are available via Steam. The only downside is you will have to sift through a lot of inaccurate info when looking for anything due to mismatched versions and, obvioously, the hassle with downgrades. Small price, though.



TL:DR
Of course it's worth it. Base game didn't gather all of this acclaim for nothing. People claiming otherwise either forgot about the initial fun it provided or have somewhat inflated expectations.

最後修改者:frobisher; 2017 年 6 月 25 日 上午 7:04
of Anwyl 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 4:17 
Hey guys I got the five anniversary pack with sword of islam, the byzantium dlc, way of life, the old gods, etc. What would you recommend playing first to get used to the game? I've heard cornwall recommended before, but what would you say?

I also separately bought the merchant republic dlc, should I get used to the main game before trying the hansa or something? I've heard they play differently.
pi73r 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 4:19 
A county in Ireland is considered to be the best for smooth newbie start.
of Anwyl 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 4:48 
引用自 pi73r
A county in Ireland is considered to be the best for smooth newbie start.


Do you not have to worry about english invasion?
kaiyl_kariashi 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 5:29 
nah, Ireland is pretty passive. (assuming the default 1066 start)

England is usually busy butting heads with france or Denmark over a bunch of shared claims left over from the norman invasion period, or tearing itself apart through familial backstabbing...or trying to beat up Scotland or Wales. And usually eventually gets involved with crusading when those happen.


Generally as long as you don't go out of your way to antagonize anyone, they generally leave ireland alone.


And if England does start looking like they're eying you're stuff, try marrying some spare kids into the royal family for a non-aggression pact. Or if all else fails, swear fealty and rip them apart from the inside.


There's a bunch of different ways you can go just in that one area.
of Anwyl 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 5:34 
引用自 kaiyl_kariashi
nah, Ireland is pretty passive. (assuming the default 1066 start)

England is usually busy butting heads with france or Denmark over a bunch of shared claims left over from the norman invasion period, or tearing itself apart through familial backstabbing...or trying to beat up Scotland or Wales. And usually eventually gets involved with crusading when those happen.


Generally as long as you don't go out of your way to antagonize anyone, they generally leave ireland alone.


And if England does start looking like they're eying you're stuff, try marrying some spare kids into the royal family for a non-aggression pact. Or if all else fails, swear fealty and rip them apart from the inside.


There's a bunch of different ways you can go just in that one area.


They've got nonaggression pacts in this game? It's so beautiful! ;_;


Thank you for all the advice!
最後修改者:of Anwyl; 2017 年 6 月 25 日 下午 5:34
pi73r 2017 年 6 月 26 日 上午 2:18 
引用自 Adventurer_Blitz
引用自 pi73r
A county in Ireland is considered to be the best for smooth newbie start.


Do you not have to worry about english invasion?
Not at all, even as beginner you shouldn't have bigger problems conquering single counties in Ireland. Once you create kingdom of Ireland everyone should be your vassal there already. Then you proceed to gradually take over the rest of britain. Once you create an empire you can start conquering western Europe.
Unless you do some major ♥♥♥♥ ups regarding vassal control, even as 1st timer by the end date you should have control over at least like half an Europe when starting in Ireland.
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