How do I turn Pictland into Scottish?

[panpiper]

I started as the ruler of Pictland in 769, who married the heir, now king, of Northumbria. I cheated and started with two sons. I've by now conquered all of Ireland and switched my culture to feudal. I'm starting in on Wales.

The problem is that my culture is Pictish and I really want to be Scottish, so I can get their pike retinues. Do I have to do something specific to become Scottish or does it happen automatically? I read something about assigning a non-pictish ruler to a holding... but I don't even know how to determine someone's culture. (I am very much a newb at this game.)

[DonJuanDoja]

Norse need to take your land... mix with the pictish people. Then take it back.

[DonJuanDoja]

Or start at a later date when they're already scottish, think they are in 867, 1066 for sure.

[DonJuanDoja]

Then once you have a Scotting county you should be able to convert to their culture... right click on yourself

[KG]

Change the culture of your rulers (and preferably vassals too) to something other than Pictish one way or another and it should eventually happen. The event doesn't seem to need the Norse to be involved.

The MTTH is 100 years so stay patient. The event won't fire if a province owner has a Pictish top liege that is emperor-tier or has two or more kingdoms, though that isn't likely to be a problem.

[panpiper]

I have absolutely no idea how to "change the culture" of rulers/vassals. Right clicking on portraits does not give me any options for such (of course just now realizing that that may be because I don't yet have a Scottish culture to change to). I in fact have no clue how to even 'know' what culture they are.

I have some provinces in Wales. Could I use those somehow to force a culture change?

I will certainly give Donjuan's idea a try. There is little harm to letting the norse have one tiny province for a bit. How long would I have to wait before taking it back?

[KG]

http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Culture#Character_conversion

If you use Conclave, the "education" section would also include using Heritage focus to change wards' culture.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by panpiper:

... I in fact have no clue how to even 'know' what culture they are.

Look in the character window. To the right of the portrait.

There is little harm to letting the norse have one tiny province for a bit. How long would I have to wait before taking it back?

The direct ruler of the pictish province needs to be any other culture than pictish.
Doesn't have to be norse. Could be any.
If he has a top liege (so you in this case), then that one may not be emperor or have two king titles while pictish himself. So being pictish yourself is fine. You dont have to change your culture, but if you did then the event could also fire in your demesne and thus make it more likely to happen faster.

# Pictish province converts to Scottish
province_event = {
	id = CM.1
	desc = EVTDESC_CM_1
	picture = GFX_evt_stone_church

	trigger = {
		culture = pictish
		owner = {
			NOT = {	culture = pictish }
		}
		NOT = {
			owner = { 
				top_liege = { 
					culture = pictish 
					OR = {
						tier = emperor
						num_of_king_titles = 2
					}
				} 
			}
		}
	}
	
	mean_time_to_happen = {
		months = 1200
		modifier = {
			factor = 0.3
			OR = {
				has_game_rule = {
					name = culture_conversion
					value = faster_melting_pots
				}
				has_game_rule = {
					name = culture_conversion
					value = faster_melting_pots_and_slower_normal
				}
			}
		}
	}

	option = {
		name = EVTOPTA_CM_1
		culture = scottish
	}

So as long as you don't become emperor or hold two kingdom titles, you could have a vassal of different culture in a pictish province of the region of Scotland and hope that the province culture then changes to scottish.

As soon as the province converts from pictish to scottish, you (should) get a decision to convert to scottish yourself.

[panpiper]

I really appreciate the help. Found the culture identifier.

I do in fact have two kingdom titles, the Irish and the Pictish titles. I'll have to see if I can give one away to one of my sons maybe? Hopefully I'll be able to keep my castle holdings in that territory if I do.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by panpiper:

I really appreciate the help. Found the culture identifier.

I do in fact have two kingdom titles, the Irish and the Pictish titles. I'll have to see if I can give one away to one of my sons maybe? Hopefully I'll be able to keep my castle holdings in that territory if I do.

Just in case:
Only real kingdom titles do matter. Petty kingdoms are duchy tier and thus not real kingdoms.
See also: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Duchies#Nomenclature
Now if you indeed have a second kingdom and hand that out, then this kingdom will be independent of yours.

[panpiper]

I do have two kingdoms. Sadly I cannot figure out how to give 'any' titles to anyone, except county holdings (castles/temples/cities). I would not be happy to loose Ireland, but it is a sacrifice I would be prepared to do if it meant I could finally build Scottish pikes for retinue. Right now the best option I have for retinue units is 80% light infantry and 20% pikes.

Failing everything, I suppose I could just scrap a day and a half of gameplay and start a new game at a later date with Scottish culture and feudalism already in play.

[panpiper]

Well, I finally figured out how to give away a kingdom title, did so to an unrelated courtier, made him a baron of a single county, then promoted him to king. That left him 'king' of that solitary county. Once I get my Scottish culture, I can always reconquor it.

The 'proc' chance of the culture creation for a non-pict barony (which I also managed to create) seems to be such that it has a one in 1200 chance of happening each month. Which works out to about a 66% chance of it happening over the course of 100 years (stats are funny). Would I be correct to presume that if I had two such baronies, I would double my chances? The more the merrier?

[Newton's Flaming Laser Sword]

Originally posted by panpiper:

Well, I finally figured out how to give away a kingdom title, did so to an unrelated courtier, made him a baron of a single county, then promoted him to king. That left him 'king' of that solitary county. Once I get my Scottish culture, I can always reconquor it.

The 'proc' chance of the culture creation for a non-pict barony (which I also managed to create) seems to be such that it has a one in 1200 chance of happening each month. Which works out to about a 66% chance of it happening over the course of 100 years (stats are funny). Would I be correct to presume that if I had two such baronies, I would double my chances? The more the merrier?

Well.. yes, however the chance is likely smaller than 66% since the chances aren't cumulative. I'd figure you'd increase your chances if you did similar things in various counties since it'd just create another instance of likeliness for the event to fire. If you want to maximize that i'd say you could do the same in every pictish country. I'm not sure what the game does for multiple non-picts in the same county though, and whether they'd all have the culture flip event.

[Varainger]

Originally posted by panpiper:

Well, I finally figured out how to give away a kingdom title,...

As long as a title is not under gavelkind you can destroy it, so there would be no need to give it away.

non-pict barony

It's per province, not per barony