Lucifer's Own

[Groso]

Hey guys, wanted to ask is it worth atm playing as satanists? Or is it too OP?

[Danksama]

If you want to be OP go ahead. I have them turned off.

[Flamin Jesus]

(Assuming Lucifer's Own has roughly the same set of abilities and drawbacks as Hel's Followers)

I think it's.... Basically like playing with gated cheatcodes. It gives you a set of incredibly powerful abilities that you can seriously abuse (Mostly if you're a minority/pagan religion to get around the limited diplomatic options, Abductions are incredibly powerful, Tainted Touch can save your bacon).

But in fairness, if you don't abuse those abilities it's actually an interesting trade-off (and I'd say that for catholics the benefits are probably not quite as powerful). It's gonna ruin the ♥♥♥♥ out of your character if you actually use your powers, but as stated, those powers are quite useful.

Anyway, it's fun, but easily abused to fun-ruining degrees.

[Yaldabaoth]

Hermetic Society is far more OP if you know how to play the game (ie don't need Satanist powers to fix inheritances).

[Japzzi]

I almost always play with the DLCs (Except Sunset Invasion).

But the devil worshippers are insanely powerfull. People usually get mad at me for telling people not to play as them but in my humble opinion they make your game far shorter because it makes the game really easy.

[☭Woodsman☭]

It's OP if you're a min/maxer, but if you role play you'll balance out all your power with the fact you'll be despised by all

[Old Man Mordaith]

Originally posted by Yaldabaoth:

Hermetic Society is far more OP if you know how to play the game (ie don't need Satanist powers to fix inheritances).

I've found The Gifts of the Darklord only really useful if I get a horrible disease or injury, and have time to climb the ranks. Otherwise, it is just more trouble than it is worth.

Hermetic is really powerful, I find it best for grooming heirs and keeping a business focus.

But I usually join one of the more 'boreing' relgious orders. Set my focus on Theology for abit. Stabilizes my realm, and the vast majority of my vassals love me, so I can change laws pretty easy without breaking the bank.

[Foxador]

Abduction can be hilarious when used against counts as you can steal them and random them back for 70g. I did that once as Ireland just stealing all the counts near me to get all the money I needed for my town upgrades since I was just getting 2g a month 70g was a lot of money.

Lucifers order seems to get weaker though once you start becoming a large kingdom since you get so many negative traits you'll have all your vassals hating you.

[Paragon]

Originally posted by Foxador:

Abduction can be hilarious when used against counts as you can steal them and random them back for 70g. I did that once as Ireland just stealing all the counts near me to get all the money I needed for my town upgrades since I was just getting 2g a month 70g was a lot of money.

Lucifers order seems to get weaker though once you start becoming a large kingdom since you get so many negative traits you'll have all your vassals hating you.

You can also invite rich courtiers to your court, abduct them, then banish them, taking all their money.

Basically you find someone (old people work best, as they tend to have more money) with a load of dosh and no titles, invite them to your court, abduct them, and banish. Theres no penalty too!

This is a variation of an older way to steal money from courtiers. You would marry an old courtier to one of your children, then murder them to take their money. Rinse and repeat.

[Zalzany]

they are good for the achievment and you can kill them Ithink as the ruler if your not in their group. I know I killed a few in my last run, but the acheivment for having the son of lucifer is awsome that is super op, you get a female ruler and join the demon cult and its just too damn op. I had my wife impreganated wiht out my knowledge in an ireland run, first born son of my second ruler, was born and the chaplin immediatly had an event asking me to kill my son. I said no he was my son.

I died when he was 14 he meh stats, like nothing about 9 but nothing below 5 either. But when he hit 16 instant leader of santinists, and he got so many perks out of no where. When he died his lowest stat was diplo at 16 was 20 but he had so many sins I got rid of one I had him go theology so he could go into secelusion and lose one they came back a week, or month later lol. But in the end he had 51 martial. I had more power with out using the tribal event troops then any 2 rulers combined in the UK islands, was amazing I took the ireland crown, all of wales and part of scotland before he died. Even absorbed a herctic form of catholic and converted all of ireland to it, so I coudl holy war people, and have all their pals join in still beat them lol.

That is how santinsts are trully OP screw the abduction get the son of a demon as your heir and watch bad ass unfold at 16 lol.