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The Vlach Mar 14, 2017 @ 5:27pm
Can't create Kingdom Title even though I have full requirements
I'm playing as the Byzantines, conquered Bulgaria and then placed my own lords to rule over it.

I own it 100% yet it won't allow me to create the Kingdom title and I just don't understand why I had previously usurped it and then destroyed the title but in the past that has never caused any issue with recreating the title

I also intended to maybe let a vassal create it on his own so I gave him all the duchies but still he didn't create it. I can't even give him independence so that I can reconquer it

This is just a screenshot of it

http://i.imgur.com/Ryfbz77.jpg

Does anybody know about this issue and a fix to it? It would be much appreciated
Last edited by The Vlach; Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:04pm
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Varainger Mar 14, 2017 @ 5:41pm 
Known Bug

You could use a console command give_title to get it, i suppose.
The Vlach Mar 15, 2017 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Varainger:
Known Bug

You could use a console command give_title to get it, i suppose.


Sadly I am on Ironman mode
The Vlach Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Varainger:
Known Bug

You could use a console command give_title to get it, i suppose.


Is there honestly no way to do it? Will my vassal not at least make the title himself
Yaldabaoth Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Maximus Erectus:
Will my vassal not at least make the title himself
No. That title is dead.
Scrapper-Lock Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:21pm 
Originally posted by Maximus Erectus:
Originally posted by Varainger:
Known Bug

You could use a console command give_title to get it, i suppose.


Is there honestly no way to do it? Will my vassal not at least make the title himself

The problem is that this is bugged. The bug appears to be that, whether you or the AI are the ones who destroy a title, once it is destroyed by anyone in a single play-through, it can never be created again. So you can go ahead and create it the first time. You can usurp it. But if you destroy it, or if the AI destroys it, it's gone. It can never come back.

Hopefully pdx will fix this asap as it is a major game-breaking bug... for even if you are careful and never destroy a title, there is no way to stop the AI from doing it, and the AI lives to destroy and re-make titles all the time. So it will destroy them and then not be able to make them and you will end up (so the reportage has it) with zillions of counties all over the place that cannot be formed into duchies, kingdoms, etc.

I'm still doing my current play-through since I have not hit this snag yet, but I am not putting all that much time/effort into it because of this bug. In fact if this were not my spring vacation this week, I wouldn't be playing CK 2 at all until this is fixed.
The Vlach Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:29pm 
Well that's 9 hours worth of a save game down the drain.....

thanks for the replies, hopefully they quickly fix this
Scrapper-Lock Mar 15, 2017 @ 1:57pm 
It's been talked about on the pdx forum. Hopefully it's on their radar. It is seriously game-breaking so they really need to fix it asap.

There is also apparently another bug that is making nearly all titles tend toward elective monarchy, which isn't necessarily game breaking but people find it annoying because it is so a-historical for many parts of the game world. Plus it makes things boring if every title has the same inheritance rules.
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The Vlach Mar 15, 2017 @ 3:04pm 
Originally posted by steven.viscido:
It's been talked about on the pdx forum. Hopefully it's on their radar. It is seriously game-breaking so they really need to fix it asap.

There is also apparently another bug that is making nearly all titles tend toward elective monarchy, which isn't necessarily game breaking but people find it annoying because it is so a-historical for many parts of the game world. Plus it makes things boring if every title has the same inheritance rules.

Yeah now that I think of it that is a bug with the elective succession

It reached the point where the Muslim Empire of Hispania became elective
Scrapper-Lock Mar 15, 2017 @ 4:18pm 
Originally posted by Maximus Erectus:
Yeah now that I think of it that is a bug with the elective succession

It reached the point where the Muslim Empire of Hispania became elective

Right.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the AI sometimes choosing elective succession, even if it is a-historical. After all, we as players frequently do things on purpose which are a-historical for fun or for strategic reasons.

But having nearly every nation in the world, every duchy, every county, be elective -- is completely unrealistic and makes the game almost silly.
The Vlach Mar 16, 2017 @ 9:36am 
Originally posted by steven.viscido:
Originally posted by Maximus Erectus:
Yeah now that I think of it that is a bug with the elective succession

It reached the point where the Muslim Empire of Hispania became elective

Right.

There is nothing inherently wrong with the AI sometimes choosing elective succession, even if it is a-historical. After all, we as players frequently do things on purpose which are a-historical for fun or for strategic reasons.

But having nearly every nation in the world, every duchy, every county, be elective -- is completely unrealistic and makes the game almost silly.


So true
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