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Do Viceroy Kings Make Viceroy Dukes?
So I'm doing the usual 'reform the Roman Empire with the ERE' thing, and I'm close to hitting the limit of Themes that directly serve me. I'm wondering two things.

A) If I make a Viceroy King and have a Viceroy Strategos under him, to whom gets the Theme after the Strategos dies? Me or the King?
B) If the Viceroy King recieves the Theme, what does he do with it? Keep it? Grant it fully to someone? Grant it Viceroy to someone?
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Random Mar 11, 2017 @ 8:24pm 
King gets viceroys for his dejure, and you receive the kingdom back on his death.

If any viceroys die during your time holding the kingdom title, you get them back as well.

Honestly though, you shouldn't care about the duchies within a vassal kingdom at all, the point of making the kingdom is to make it easier to manage your realm with a singular powerful vassal where a swarm of demanding viceroy dukes that hate you used to reside.

The opinion drop of giving viceroys away is sort of pointless, not to mention you lower your own vassal limit by even having viceroy dukes enabled -10, so that's another 10 vassals you could have had except for some reason you are scared of dukes as an emperor...

Give out kingdoms, never need to worry again, profit.

Serbia + Bulgaria + Georgia + armenia. Those are all small weak kingdoms

Anatolia + Croatia + Sicily are average strength, and can easily be managed but probably will give you issues if you don't have infrastructure / retainers to offset any factioning.

Greece = powerful. do not make greece at all until you are basically on your way to owning the pentarch for mending the schism. you need additional vassals beyond the borders of byzantine in order to control the vassal of greece, else it will be too powerful proportionally to any other vassal, and yourself, leading to faction headaches. (can be mostly avoided via naps, however be wary of giving them any inheritable claims for byzantine as they will then have a CB on your title and the power to likely push it)
big lesbowski Mar 11, 2017 @ 8:27pm 
Thanks, I'll take your advice.
Yasha Mar 11, 2017 @ 11:35pm 
Beware, if you give the same character both a Viceroy Kingship AND a Viceroy Dukedom, in certain circumstances (which I haven't yet figured out), the Dukedom can stop being a viceroy and turn into a standard heriditary vassal on succession. This won't happen if Kingship is heriditary - only if both levels are viceroyalties held by the same person.

This could be a game bug, or a deliberate feature, I'm not sure which.
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Date Posted: Mar 11, 2017 @ 8:09pm
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