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Zwentibold Mar 7, 2017 @ 8:48am
Monks and Mystics, and magic?
Does the new DLC turn the game in some kind of fantasy setting? Or did I misunderstood the description (Satanic cults giving powers and such)? Cause the aztec thing was alternate history (for what I know, don't own the dlc), here it seems a very strange path to take for an historical simulation.
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Voelkar Mar 7, 2017 @ 8:51am 
You will be able to curse people (and it will work) and the entities do excist in the game. Yes, with the DLC, the fantasy part is boosted for sure.
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nolram00 Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:05am 
You can turn off the magical things
Varainger Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:07am 
There is a setting in the Game Rules page to turn off supernatural events.
Not sure what it specifically turns off regarding the new DLC, but checking that option
should suffice.
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monsterfurby Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:09am 
"Powers" are just special actions that members of these societies get. Satan-worshippers can (like Norse rulers) sacrifice prisoners, while members of the Hermetic Society can, for example, write and publish an academic paper of sorts. Some imply a degree of mysticism/supersititon, but mostly I think it's just the use of the word "powers" (reminiscent of "super powers") that is a bit misleading.
crisselis Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:12am 
Originally posted by monsterfurby:
"Powers" are just special actions that members of these societies get. Satan-worshippers can (like Norse rulers) sacrifice prisoners, while members of the Hermetic Society can, for example, write and publish an academic paper of sorts. Some imply a degree of mysticism/supersititon, but mostly I think it's just the use of the word "powers" (reminiscent of "super powers") that is a bit misleading.
Any ideea if the monastic orders ( which are not considered secret ) have any such powers or abilities?
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Varainger Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:36am 
..actually there is a new Game Rule, i quote a post in the the dev diary #44 thread:


"there is a new Game Rule to turn off the Demon Worshipper cults" !!

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Zolo No Mar 7, 2017 @ 9:39am 
I've been a member of the Hermetic Society for a couple of years in game. I'm still only an Initiate but they have the ability to "predict the future" (which gives a +/- modifier on stats (stats depend on event choices)) or a potion to cure Stressed/Depressed (haven't tried).

It doesn't seem fantasy settings to me as if you predict the future and get a positive result - you will be more confident yourself. Or if you think that Depression Potion worked and cured your depression - then you probably aren't depressed anymore.
Originally posted by monsterfurby:
"Powers" are just special actions that members of these societies get. Satan-worshippers can (like Norse rulers) sacrifice prisoners, while members of the Hermetic Society can, for example, write and publish an academic paper of sorts. Some imply a degree of mysticism/supersititon, but mostly I think it's just the use of the word "powers" (reminiscent of "super powers") that is a bit misleading.
Satan worshippers can also summon familiars, get a random event that involves summoning a demon to bless them, give out plague curses, and use "dark healing" to cure illnesses, to name a few things.

It's definitely very fantasy-ish.
Zsrai Mar 7, 2017 @ 10:28am 
Considering the Hermetics were real and not an imaginary society, I wouldn't imagine that they would be "supernatural". I think the only super magicky one is the Lucifer's Own (depending on religion), which it seems like you can turn off anyways.
Wartasticus Mar 7, 2017 @ 11:17am 
+1 on the question about the monastic orders having supernatural powers/events...can anyone confirm?
Zolo No Mar 7, 2017 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by erick_peterson:
+1 on the question about the monastic orders having supernatural powers/events...can anyone confirm?

It's too early to tell. I'm of the mind the Hermetical Order (which I'm a part of) is all in their mind. The other secret societies - well I don't yet know.
Originally posted by erick_peterson:
+1 on the question about the monastic orders having supernatural powers/events...can anyone confirm?

The 2 christian orders have no supernatural powers as far as I can tell. They do have the ability to toggle celibacy at will which is a bit weird...

Hermetical Order gets some weird abilities but it's explained in terms of their minds rather than supernatural stuff.

I have no idea about assasins, haven't played as muslims except when playing as a fake muslim who was secretly zoroastrian just to check out that stuff.

Secret religious orders (which can be founded after using the new false conversion mechanic) don't get anything supernatural, they can just convert random people and create secret religious societies within their counties.

Lucifer's own definitely get supernatural powers.

Events-wise I only really know about Lucifer's own and secret religious orders. The former get supernatural events (summoning a random ass demon to potentially get a stat benefit... or cancer) while the latter don't seem to (I've only ever got a religion fueled bar brawl event)
numsei Mar 7, 2017 @ 11:52am 
is this ♥♥♥♥ real? sometime ago i read some people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about possessed and another trait giving ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ magic events and in the end it was all crazy dreams you got, perfect fine by me
Originally posted by numsei:
is this ♥♥♥♥ real? sometime ago i read some people ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about possessed and another trait giving ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ magic events and in the end it was all crazy dreams you got, perfect fine by me

Well I used satanic powers to give my wife literal cancer, I'm assuming that was pretty real.
Zwentibold Mar 7, 2017 @ 12:04pm 
Thanks for the replies. Guess I would stay away, as fun as it seems to be. More focus on religions and cults in the game is welcome (it's middle ages), secret societies nice, even satan worshippers, but magic...
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