Why PC COD is full of tryhards?

[numbcorns]

It's not fun, i feel like i'm playing with nadeshot.

[Sense]

I feel you man... lately the amount of tryhards i am facing in public matches is just too high. Parties of presige masters with silenced scars or an 94 headglitching all over the map, people camping until they get their streaks etc...I mean is just a freaking game!!!

[Evrain]

Postat inițial de Mr_Orange:

I feel you man... lately the amount of tryhards i am facing in public matches is just too high. Parties of presige masters with silenced scars or an 94 headglitching all over the map, people camping until they get their streaks etc...I mean is just a freaking game!!!

I admit I kinda fall into the category, mainly as I am a perfectionist in real life (in my line of work, it helps immensely. Else someone might kinda die), hence why I can hardly accept failure even in a game. Plus, BO2 is my first online game, to add to the injury.
Point is, more often than not the CoD "competitive" community is filled with kids aged 13-17 grown up watching countless times youtube videos of "pros" flaunting about kills, achievements, easy bucks gained through YT and eSports, etcetera etcetera.
Hence, their ego shapes around how many nuclears/MOABs/KEMs/triPPle [sic] nuclears they got, blissfully ignoring that it makes them nerds rather than heroes. God help them if that's their puckup line.
As long as they'll keep dreaming of having thousands of subscribers, receiving copies of the game/consoles/PCs for free and playing in FaZe or OpTic (fun fact, neither has a PC team), they'll keep pestering the entire playerbase.

What makes me laugh is that most of them play premade teams and/or accurately "craft" lobbies via the invite system in order to achieve their so called records - Stylezz-whats-his-name for example utterly sucks alone (on top of being a CSGO booster and failed cheat coder before Treyarch went down HARD on family sharing), Fact' itself proudly declares the best pubstomping and yet plays only premade teams (let alone how each clan member has at least one VAC - for FOV changers, of course... /s), FaCT'Dino proclaims a world recordwith 700+ kills and yet failsto detailhow it was achieved with a full 6 players team, on Nuketown, against low rank players, with professional gaming equipment, and so on. Has no one ever wondered why none of them ever made it to an actual, live streamed ESL/MLG event?

Food for thought.

[cad80_99]

the issues is not tryhards. its those who try less. i mean really its a game and honestly most still want to win, an get a good KDR.

i think the problem is that you guys try and still get stomped on. therefore now you have to call those who are just better then you a tryhard. no its called more skilled then you are. if you want an easy game then set up a private match and play against bots on easiest mode. i believe recruit. then you can just have fun and not try and still get your win.


i dont care how people play. they bought the game just as i did, and they can play hard, can use whatever they want, or whatever else it is. they are playing in public servers and those things are allowed. dont like it then do what i said, or find another game that has rentable servers and rent your own server and come up with your own rules.

[Sense]

Postat inițial de {SOB} cad80_99:

the issues is not tryhards. its those who try less. i mean really its a game and honestly most still want to win, an get a good KDR.

i think the problem is that you guys try and still get stomped on. therefore now you have to call those who are just better then you a tryhard. no its called more skilled then you are. if you want an easy game then set up a private match and play against bots on easiest mode. i believe recruit. then you can just have fun and not try and still get your win.


i dont care how people play. they bought the game just as i did, and they can play hard, can use whatever they want, or whatever else it is. they are playing in public servers and those things are allowed. dont like it then do what i said, or find another game that has rentable servers and rent your own server and come up with your own rules.

First of all i am decent player, i am not getting stomped every time i join a public match. Most of my games are pretty good, but when i am playing against someone tryharding that much my main focus is ruining his game and i stop caring about how well i am doing. I feel great when a tryharding kid rages for buzz killing him. Plus I never said they should not use those certain weapons, i am using them sometimes too, but i came across plenty of players who have thousands of kills with a weapon and only a couple of hundreds with all the other.It's a game u should have fun and explore and other things.For the headglitching part my point is that some people take advantage of a wrong game mechanic ( headglitching) to a level that is just way too much!

[Evrain]

Postat inițial de {SOB} cad80_99:

the issues is not tryhards. its those who try less. i mean really its a game and honestly most still want to win, an get a good KDR.

i think the problem is that you guys try and still get stomped on. therefore now you have to call those who are just better then you a tryhard. no its called more skilled then you are. if you want an easy game then set up a private match and play against bots on easiest mode. i believe recruit. then you can just have fun and not try and still get your win.


i dont care how people play. they bought the game just as i did, and they can play hard, can use whatever they want, or whatever else it is. they are playing in public servers and those things are allowed. dont like it then do what i said, or find another game that has rentable servers and rent your own server and come up with your own rules.

So, in your opinion, a 14 years old who cried to papa for a Razer mouse and keyboard, a Turtle Beach headset, a top notch Alienware/ASUS rig and a low latency DSL (here in Italy the "gaming" option runs you 20€ on top of your current DSL subscription) and hence has a remarkable advantage over someone with an HP notebook and run off the mill Logitech mouse has "skills" and is "better than you". In a game where the engine performs its calculations on frames rendered client side.

A display of skill is one where superiority is shown among peers, hence why MLG, ESL and even Activision itself invite competing teams to a location where each is offered the very same setup, not one where factors tied to how much you invested can give you the edge. Come over here, play with 110+ ping on a Packard Bell notebook and we will see where your "skill" goes.
Down the drain.

[^5 david slayer]

Amen, OP.. Where are all the n00bs at ?! -- This is the only thing consoles have over us, more people that don't know what they're doing.

But realistically, on computer CoDs', every game is "sweaty" as the trendy kids say. Can't catch a break, there's hardly any noobs to go around. And I play 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, and Blops 2 regularly. Either you're evenly skilled, or the others have been playing the game since it came out. (2003-2014).

This is why I'm *kind of* in support of SBMM. Even though our "new Cod" community is small. Since most of the original CoD (pros) players moved on in 2009, or just stayed at CoD's 1-7.

[Mill]

I don't mind playing against good players, what I do mind is losing gun battles because the servers suck. The pings are not accurate at all. If the matchmaking puts me in a 150 ping server, its unplayable. If I'm in a lobby where I have a 40-60 ping (that's normally "good" ping for this game), someone on the enemy team with 150 ping will be unstoppable. The netcode is trash.

The toggle aimbotters don't help things, either. I just got my ass kicked by a guy with a .96 K/D because his KSG never missed.

[^5 david slayer]

Same here. I can't really play this game, because i get screwed over by the networking.

Game is playable.. But mostly just in Combat Training modes. - TDM/Hardcore regular modes are all broken. As described below.

I get shot through every wall possible, people just *guessing * you're there..? -- Can't win any gun fights, soon as i run into someone, I have ZERO chance to shoot them, and running into more than 2 people lags me to death. (Either network, or graphically wise)... If I only stick my BUTT out any door a tiny bit, i am dead in an instant.

Make of it what you will, it's NOT my end. I have TWC for internet which my line gets a "grade A connection". ( I also have an I5-2500k, 8 gb ram, Gtx 650 ti boost 2Gb.) - In combat training, none of this awful stuff happens, I'm able to hit anything i shoot at, even if it is just 3 real people, I hit them like i am supposed too.

[{FLS}Anarkiswar]

What bother`s me Is When I`m told to uninstall b/c I get wrecked....(yes I ment to spell It that way)... B/c I have to play one handed(took a REAL bullet to the head and now my left arm Is paralyzed...I grind`ed my way to PM and finished with a .60 kdr....OBTW I use a razer naga molten 17 button mouse to do so, It is the only mouse I can use one handed and assign all my functions too

[softaim]

Postat inițial de Evrain:

Postat inițial de {SOB} cad80_99:

the issues is not tryhards. its those who try less. i mean really its a game and honestly most still want to win, an get a good KDR.

i think the problem is that you guys try and still get stomped on. therefore now you have to call those who are just better then you a tryhard. no its called more skilled then you are. if you want an easy game then set up a private match and play against bots on easiest mode. i believe recruit. then you can just have fun and not try and still get your win.


i dont care how people play. they bought the game just as i did, and they can play hard, can use whatever they want, or whatever else it is. they are playing in public servers and those things are allowed. dont like it then do what i said, or find another game that has rentable servers and rent your own server and come up with your own rules.

So, in your opinion, a 14 years old who cried to papa for a Razer mouse and keyboard, a Turtle Beach headset, a top notch Alienware/ASUS rig and a low latency DSL (here in Italy the "gaming" option runs you 20€ on top of your current DSL subscription) and hence has a remarkable advantage over someone with an HP notebook and run off the mill Logitech mouse has "skills" and is "better than you". In a game where the engine performs its calculations on frames rendered client side.

A display of skill is one where superiority is shown among peers, hence why MLG, ESL and even Activision itself invite competing teams to a location where each is offered the very same setup, not one where factors tied to how much you invested can give you the edge. Come over here, play with 110+ ping on a Packard Bell notebook and we will see where your "skill" goes.
Down the drain.

Lol

[Evrain]

Postat inițial de anarkiswar:

What bother`s me Is When I`m told to uninstall b/c I get wrecked....(yes I ment to spell It that way)... B/c I have to play one handed(took a REAL bullet to the head and now my left arm Is paralyzed...I grind`ed my way to PM and finished with a .60 kdr....OBTW I use a razer naga molten 17 button mouse to do so, It is the only mouse I can use one handed and assign all my functions too

You just won my respect, sir.

Postat inițial de ^5 david slayer:

Same here. I can't really play this game, because i get screwed over by the networking.

Game is playable.. But mostly just in Combat Training modes. - TDM/Hardcore regular modes are all broken. As described below.

I get shot through every wall possible, people just *guessing * you're there..? -- Can't win any gun fights, soon as i run into someone, I have ZERO chance to shoot them, and running into more than 2 people lags me to death. (Either network, or graphically wise)... If I only stick my BUTT out any door a tiny bit, i am dead in an instant.

Make of it what you will, it's NOT my end. I have TWC for internet which my line gets a "grade A connection". ( I also have an I5-2500k, 8 gb ram, Gtx 650 ti boost 2Gb.) - In combat training, none of this awful stuff happens, I'm able to hit anything i shoot at, even if it is just 3 real people, I hit them like i am supposed too.

Sounds like a driver issue to me, are they up to date? Have you tweaked them for performance (fund this out the hard way in the latest Catalyst suite)?

Postat inițial de Sarah:

Postat inițial de Evrain:

So, in your opinion, a 14 years old who cried to papa for a Razer mouse and keyboard, a Turtle Beach headset, a top notch Alienware/ASUS rig and a low latency DSL (here in Italy the "gaming" option runs you 20€ on top of your current DSL subscription) and hence has a remarkable advantage over someone with an HP notebook and run off the mill Logitech mouse has "skills" and is "better than you". In a game where the engine performs its calculations on frames rendered client side.

A display of skill is one where superiority is shown among peers, hence why MLG, ESL and even Activision itself invite competing teams to a location where each is offered the very same setup, not one where factors tied to how much you invested can give you the edge. Come over here, play with 110+ ping on a Packard Bell notebook and we will see where your "skill" goes.
Down the drain.

Lol

I prefer "rotfl".

[^5 david slayer]

Yes, every important component i have is updated. I don't have any big issues like this on any other FPS.
(I think i tweaked nvidia control panel pretty well for this game.)

[Myth]

I'm not sure if people try less in this game and just call other people who are good at it try yards or what, but I'm sure if you tried harder and leaning the ways of the game instead of just running around like you've stated you do because you can't get any kills, then you might get better.

Also, a lot of people say they've run into a hacker, and I've only ever run into one. I don't know how people say they run into one every game. But then again you do see people complain about hackers when rhymes have less than a 1 k/d ratio...

[F33dK1llFr3nzy]

I think a lot of it has to do with PC has always been a quite competitive group. When I started PC gaming 15 years or so ago the trend was slowly going up and then AA (Americas Army) hit the scene and it was just like COD is now for console. Everyone was trying to be the best and wanted to be that Team that ended flying to the yearly championships. We built our own Rigs and tweaked our OS to get the most out of our Rigs. In the PC world it was always about who had the best rig and best internet, because actually back then it was best rig and net that wins but now with lag compensation and other server side networking tweaks that is not even close to the case. Then obviously with COD 4 the franchise started taking over PC and slowly 1 by 1 those AA players went to COD and stayed on through. Not to mention that after the 2.8 update of AA the game was horrible and didn't play like a twitch shooter anymore (obviously there is alot more PC games that were competitive but there too many to mention). Not to long after that a lot of our kids picked up the habit of building their own Rigs and have kept the PC Is King motto alive. And yes there are some great players out there who can pub stomp players solo in just about every lobby they get in and if they're in with a Clan or Party who can watch their back they are just unstoppable. So I'd have to say yes there are a lot of tryhards on PC and I'm sure this is just some of the reason but hasn't PC always been a more Elite group than console? Also, it's good to not have 7-12 year olds in a lobby that won't shut the f$%k up.

[Checkmate #0]

Postat inițial de -uNk.Diesel:

I think a lot of it has to do with PC has always been a quite competitive group. When I started PC gaming 15 years or so ago the trend was slowly going up and then AA (Americas Army) hit the scene and it was just like COD is now for console. Everyone was trying to be the best and wanted to be that Team that ended flying to the yearly championships. We built our own Rigs and tweaked our OS to get the most out of our Rigs. In the PC world it was always about who had the best rig and best internet, because actually back then it was best rig and net that wins but now with lag compensation and other server side networking tweaks that is not even close to the case. Then obviously with COD 4 the franchise started taking over PC and slowly 1 by 1 those AA players went to COD and stayed on through. Not to mention that after the 2.8 update of AA the game was horrible and didn't play like a twitch shooter anymore (obviously there is alot more PC games that were competitive but there too many to mention). Not to long after that a lot of our kids picked up the habit of building their own Rigs and have kept the PC Is King motto alive. And yes there are some great players out there who can pub stomp players solo in just about every lobby they get in and if they're in with a Clan or Party who can watch their back they are just unstoppable. So I'd have to say yes there are a lot of tryhards on PC and I'm sure this is just some of the reason but hasn't PC always been a more Elite group than console? Also, it's good to not have 7-12 year olds in a lobby that won't shut the f$%k up.

Americas Army ? LOL