Im leaving for vsat hack

[exTillerW]

THAT VIDEO HAS BEEN WATCHED 31K TIMES WITH 500 ACTIVE PLAYERS (250 right now) and you tell me in game you are not cheating 10 hours 30-2? ok man please unistall and leave gaming.
That guy who made that ruined the whole game, there is no way you will get a clean lobby, LITERALLY 0! THERE IS NOONE TALKING ABOUT THIS IN STEAM DISCUSSIONS! every master prestige is hacked, every diamond skin is hacked, in every match there is at least a guy vsat hacking spamming ez, id love to play but its literally ♥♥♥♥, worst community ive ever seen in any game, level one steam accounts with diamond skin and master prestige. cheating in a 7 years old game, pathetic. i prefer players using exploits to get to max level on day one than seeing this. p a t h e t i c.

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por ATL222:

Escrito originalmente por OMG iTz OVER:

https://i.postimg.cc/CxGZpXF2/Point.png
Point proven. "Tipo host -> Altro giocatore" = "Host type -> Other player" in my native language.

And here's something else (skip to 2:11):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90iDxay58c
If there's an host migration it indeed means there's an host, and the clip is from 2015.

That is on consoles. On PC there are dedicated servers. I have never seen hos migration in Black Ops 2 on PC since the game release date.

I got it on PC shortly after launch too; I've played for more than 3,000 hours, I've never once seen a host migration.

Escrito originalmente por OMG iTz OVER:

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

This game is dedicated servers, not P2P.

https://i.postimg.cc/CxGZpXF2/Point.png
Point proven. "Tipo host -> Altro giocatore" = "Host type -> Other player" in my native language.

And here's something else (skip to 2:11):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r90iDxay58c
If there's an host migration it indeed means there's an host, and the clip is from 2015.

That doesn't really mean anything; you don't really show what game this was in; what the IP of the host/server was. So it doesn't actually mean anything.

And that video is of Console, not PC.
Consoles use Peer to Peer, PC uses dedicated servers, and I've never seen anything that would say otherwise.

[OMG iTz OVER]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

That doesn't really mean anything; you don't really show what game this was in; what the IP of the host/server was. So it doesn't actually mean anything.

That's false, check the program bar and you see clearly that there's only BO2 (and Chrome of course) open at the moment of the screenshot. I can't post any IP cause NetdumaOS doesn't show it for obvious security reasons: if it would people could use that information to DDoS the host.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And that video is of Console, not PC.
Consoles use Peer to Peer, PC uses dedicated servers, and I've never seen anything that would say otherwise.

We all know that Activision doesn't care about PC so why would they ever rent dedicated servers for the only specific platform they don't care about?

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por OMG iTz OVER:

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

That doesn't really mean anything; you don't really show what game this was in; what the IP of the host/server was. So it doesn't actually mean anything.

That's false, check the program bar and you see clearly that there's only BO2 (and Chrome of course) open at the moment of the screenshot. I can't post any IP cause NetdumaOS doesn't show it for obvious security reasons: if it would people could use that information to DDoS the host.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And that video is of Console, not PC.
Consoles use Peer to Peer, PC uses dedicated servers, and I've never seen anything that would say otherwise.

We all know that Activision doesn't care about PC so why would they ever rent dedicated servers for the only specific platform they don't care about?

I'm not familiar with the router, but just because BO2 is open doesn't mean that's the connection you're looking at (since theres no evidence for me to think that it is BO2. It could be some other program, task, or app (inb4 >taskbar -- lmao) and, your no IP reason partly makes sense, but it doesn't, BO2 uses VOIP, which is a P2P network, reveiling all IPs of everyone tjat joins (visable through wireshark.) So if someone wanted to really get your IP, they would do that. Same for every other CoD (except for BO4.)
And thinking about it, the p2p thing you claim is bo2, could actually be the VOIP network.


Activision cares about money, but it's treyarch that rent the servers, the servers are 24hz, and few men in said severs, considering player counts, they don't need more than a handful of servers, its dirt cheap for them to run, and people still buy the DLC, so why not leave them running?
There was also no announcement of them turning off the servers, which treyarch would announce.

[OMG iTz OVER]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

I'm not familiar with the router, but just because BO2 is open doesn't mean that's the connection you're looking at (since theres no evidence for me to think that it is BO2. It could be some other program, task, or app (inb4 >taskbar -- lmao)

NetdumaOS detects only in-game connections. If you wish I can record a video where I show you that before I look for a game in BO2 that host panel is empty and as soon as I join a lobby you see that panel you saw in the screenshot.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

your no IP reason partly makes sense, but it doesn't, BO2 uses VOIP, which is a P2P network, reveiling all IPs of everyone tjat joins (visable through wireshark.) So if someone wanted to really get your IP, they would do that. Same for every other CoD (except for BO4.)

Wireshark doesn't allow you to filter packets by app or by process ID so if you want to use that to find IP address of other players you have to do some workaround. At least you need to find out the port used by the app for the handshaking and so on... And there's no reason to make this even easier to ill-intentioned people.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And thinking about it, the p2p thing you claim is bo2, could actually be the VOIP network.

Voice over IP as the name suggests is a network protocol that allows the transmission of audio through internet network and at most it could be used to transmit in-game voice chat, I can't see how it's linked to the "wrong" detection of the host type.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

The servers are 24hz, and few men in said severs, considering player counts, they don't need more than a handful of servers, its dirt cheap for them to run, and people still buy the DLC, so why not leave them running?
There was also no announcement of them turning off the servers, which treyarch would announce.

https://i.postimg.cc/hjcmTb6t/Point.png
Yes, it looks like host tick rate is 24Hz but in this other screenshot too I took it still shows "Other player" as "host type". There was no official statement from 3arch about turning off servers cause (am I wrong? If so correct me) there was no official statement that they were running.

[Autumn_]

Escrito originalmente por OMG iTz OVER:

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

I'm not familiar with the router, but just because BO2 is open doesn't mean that's the connection you're looking at (since theres no evidence for me to think that it is BO2. It could be some other program, task, or app (inb4 >taskbar -- lmao)

NetdumaOS detects only in-game connections. If you wish I can record a video where I show you that before I look for a game in BO2 that host panel is empty and as soon as I join a lobby you see that panel you saw in the screenshot.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

your no IP reason partly makes sense, but it doesn't, BO2 uses VOIP, which is a P2P network, reveiling all IPs of everyone tjat joins (visable through wireshark.) So if someone wanted to really get your IP, they would do that. Same for every other CoD (except for BO4.)

Wireshark doesn't allow you to filter packets by app or by process ID so if you want to use that to find IP address of other players you have to do some workaround. At least you need to find out the port used by the app for the handshaking and so on... And there's no reason to make this even easier to ill-intentioned people.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

And thinking about it, the p2p thing you claim is bo2, could actually be the VOIP network.

Voice over IP as the name suggests is a network protocol that allows the transmission of audio through internet network and at most it could be used to transmit in-game voice chat, I can't see how it's linked to the "wrong" detection of the host type.

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

The servers are 24hz, and few men in said severs, considering player counts, they don't need more than a handful of servers, its dirt cheap for them to run, and people still buy the DLC, so why not leave them running?
There was also no announcement of them turning off the servers, which treyarch would announce.

https://i.postimg.cc/hjcmTb6t/Point.png
Yes, it looks like host tick rate is 24Hz but in this other screenshot too I took it still shows "Other player" as "host type". There was no official statement from 3arch about turning off servers cause (am I wrong? If so correct me) there was no official statement that they were running.

I'm not familiar with NetDuma ♥♥♥♥ anyway, like I said, so I don't know what it does/doesn't do.

I haven't actually used Wireshark before, but if I'm not mistaken, there is a way to filter connections. (Maybe I should piss around with wireshark at some point, I've been meaning / wanting too.)

As for the statement that they were running; I'll look into it later, reply to this at some point and I'll give it a look.
But, I have never had a hosted lobby, the connection has always been consistent, and so have the pings. I've never had a host migration, so I've never had a reason to doubt that there wasn't dedicated servers.
Still, I'll give it a look.

[OMG iTz OVER]

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

But, I have never had a hosted lobby, the connection has always been consistent, and so have the pings. I've never had a host migration, so I've never had a reason to doubt that there wasn't dedicated servers.
Still, I'll give it a look.

It is still possibile that in the past it was dedicated servers, but now since nedumaOS is a reliable source it's peer to peer. As last possibility it could be hybrid as Ghosts was but no source of course.

[exTillerW]

If you don't talk about problems/glitches no one wil do a single thing you know?

[TheBiggestNoob]

Escrito originalmente por OMG iTz OVER:

Escrito originalmente por Autumn:

But, I have never had a hosted lobby, the connection has always been consistent, and so have the pings. I've never had a host migration, so I've never had a reason to doubt that there wasn't dedicated servers.
Still, I'll give it a look.

It is still possibile that in the past it was dedicated servers, but now since nedumaOS is a reliable source it's peer to peer. As last possibility it could be hybrid as Ghosts was but no source of course.

I have never seen a host migration on PC, now and in the past. Have you seen it on PC?