Help about Black Ops 2 mouse settings

[lewosch]

I started to play Black Ops 2 multiplayer without the "enable mouse precision" settings lately. I've read many comments that disabling it will remove some sort of mouse acceleration by Windows itself and would improve my muscle memory. However, I haven't seen any improvement and my mouse feels more sensitive at small movements and it decreased my aim with semi-auto rifles and ksg. In addition, it makes it harder for me to turn around during knife or shield gameplay. so I sometimes miss easy kills until I turn around properly with a bigger hand movement on mousepad.

I may revert back to my old mouse settings but I just wanted to learn the mouse settings of other Black Ops 2 players to compare with mine and reconsider all options available.

I'd be grateful if you, at least, post your mouse settings here. Or maybe share your opinions about low & high dpi, low & high sensitivity, enable mouse precision etc.

I use;

"800" dpi of mouse
"3" in-game sensitivity
windows sensitivity setting is "6/11" and enhance pointer precision "off"

[Sticky Fingers]

These are my settings that worked great for me. For BO2 as well as for BO3.

Mouse set at 3000h / 2600v dpi
In-game sensitivity set to 1.00
Windows sensitivity setting 6/11
Enhance pointer precision: ON

My High DPI / Low Game setting always worked best when Enhance Pointer Precision is ''ON''
If the EPP is set to OFF the mouse's dpi OR in-game sensitivity has to be set at a higher level to maintain about the same acceleration which results in a total loss of ''feeling'' that i had with it.

[lewosch]

thanks for reply.

my previous setting with enhance pointer precision tick on was with 2.4 instead of 3. as you said, when EPP is disabled, more dpi/sensitivity is required to compensate.

I had been fine with EPP enabled anyway, but as I did some search, I noticed that almost everyone was against EPP. I was trying to get better aim in CoD and a bit obsessed with ideal mouse settings.

[Tdubbs]

4200dpi
2.15 in game
6/11 Windows
Enhanced pointer precision off

Edit: I should say that I've never used EPP, as it always made my mouse feel like it was doing it's own thing and not what I wanted it to feel like. Although I'm the same with VSync, never use it because it gives the mouse a delay in input and it's a great way to lose gunfights.

[DHR]

6/11 Windows
Enhanced Pointer Precision off
1600 cpi
1.90 in-game

It used to be 800 cpi 4.25 with my old mouse btw.

I'm also using the -noforceaccel -noforcemparms launch parameters to ensure that I get raw input, i.e. no acceleration, smoothing or w/e.

While you can get used to a certain acceleration curve your muscle memory will benefit greatly from not having to deal with non-linear cursor movement in the long term.

[lewosch]

Originally posted by Tdubbs:

4200dpi
2.15 in game
6/11 Windows
Enhanced pointer precision off

Edit: I should say that I've never used EPP, as it always made my mouse feel like it was doing it's own thing and not what I wanted it to feel like. Although I'm the same with VSync, never use it because it gives the mouse a delay in input and it's a great way to lose gunfights.

I would feel dizzy if I use that dpi & sensitivity combo... You're right about Vsync. It's known to be causing mouse lag in general and usually should be avoided, particularly in multiplayer games.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Originally posted by xDHRx:

6/11 Windows
Enhanced Pointer Precision off
1600 cpi
1.90 in-game

It used to be 800 cpi 4.25 with my old mouse btw.

I'm also using the -noforceaccel -noforcemparms launch parameters to ensure that I get raw input, i.e. no acceleration, smoothing or w/e.

While you can get used to a certain acceleration curve your muscle memory will benefit greatly from not having to deal with non-linear cursor movement in the long term.

Yes, technically and biologically 100% correct. But for some reason, EPP disabled makes it harder for me to track the enemies in distance inside my ironsight. Similarly in close quarters battle, I seem to waste more ammo without EPP. Because if EPP is on, I can move the mouse just about milimeters to respond to actions on screen. Disabling EPP makes it harder for me to make precisely small movements in very close combat.

In addition, for example when the enemy and I are trying to knife each other and miss a few times, it's common to turn around even 720 degrees and "EPP off" makes it harder for me to make such a rotation, because it lacks the acceleration. This reduced my performance with shield, where I need to be very agile for experienced siderunners to prevent them to backstab me.

And as a side note, I move the mouse just at the wrist level. My arm and elbow rarely moves during gameplay. This could also be the reason of something because most good players usually use low sensitivity and dpi, but compensate it with very big mousepads and hand movements. Even their shoulders move during gameplay, let alone elbow. This kind of gameplay would make me tired...

I'm an average player of K/D 1.04 and mostly play Team Deathmatch, just for your information.

[Autumn_]

I've been changing my In-game as of late (Because I've ruined my muscle memory......)
But I just gave it a little test, and:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801122612

But I did used to use 2,500 DPI (On both V/H) and 12 In-game. (Some years ago.)
Then lowered that because it was way too high......And I've had almost everything inbetween.

EPP may seem bad now, but do disable it, it's much better, after a while you'll adabt to it, and then you'll become much better.
I used to have it on, till a friend mentioned it, disabled it. Then I was easily able to smack almost anyone with little to no effort.

Originally posted by Sticky Fingers:

These are my settings that worked great for me. For BO2 as well as for BO3.

Mouse set at 3000h / 2600v dpi
In-game sensitivity set to 1.00
Windows sensitivity setting 6/11
Enhance pointer precision: ON

I didn't know you use EPP.....Damn...

Originally posted by lewosch:

Originally posted by Tdubbs:

4200dpi
2.15 in game
6/11 Windows
Enhanced pointer precision off

Edit: I should say that I've never used EPP, as it always made my mouse feel like it was doing it's own thing and not what I wanted it to feel like. Although I'm the same with VSync, never use it because it gives the mouse a delay in input and it's a great way to lose gunfights.

I would feel dizzy if I use that dpi & sensitivity combo... You're right about Vsync. It's known to be causing mouse lag in general and usually should be avoided, particularly in multiplayer games.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Originally posted by xDHRx:

6/11 Windows
Enhanced Pointer Precision off
1600 cpi
1.90 in-game

It used to be 800 cpi 4.25 with my old mouse btw.

I'm also using the -noforceaccel -noforcemparms launch parameters to ensure that I get raw input, i.e. no acceleration, smoothing or w/e.

While you can get used to a certain acceleration curve your muscle memory will benefit greatly from not having to deal with non-linear cursor movement in the long term.

Yes, technically and biologically 100% correct. But for some reason, EPP disabled makes it harder for me to track the enemies in distance inside my ironsight. Similarly in close quarters battle, I seem to waste more ammo without EPP. Because if EPP is on, I can move the mouse just about milimeters to respond to actions on screen. Disabling EPP makes it harder for me to make precisely small movements in very close combat.

In addition, for example when the enemy and I are trying to knife each other and miss a few times, it's common to turn around even 720 degrees and "EPP off" makes it harder for me to make such a rotation, because it lacks the acceleration. This reduced my performance with shield, where I need to be very agile for experienced siderunners to prevent them to backstab me.

And as a side note, I move the mouse just at the wrist level. My arm and elbow rarely moves during gameplay. This could also be the reason of something because most good players usually use low sensitivity and dpi, but compensate it with very big mousepads and hand movements. Even their shoulders move during gameplay, let alone elbow. This kind of gameplay would make me tired...

I'm an average player of K/D 1.04 and mostly play Team Deathmatch, just for your information.

Not only disable Vsync, but try to get as many FPS as you can. (While making the game look decent still, otherwise you'll have next to no fun....)

And I too only use my wrist. Maybe on the odd "Panic" reaction I'll use my forearm, but that's about it.

In my opinion, pick a sens that you can flick your wrist, and do a 90 degree turn.
If you feel it's to slow/fast, turn it up/down. Then when you can do a pretty decent flick to anyone within the genral area of your sights, that's the one for you (Remember, if you're not 100% sure, don't just keep changing it, let it sit for a while. And if you like it, keep it.)
And, turn EPP off.......Just trust me on that one.

[DHR]

Another thing of importance in this regard is the mouse in use obviously. Some have positive acceleration, some have negative acceleration, some have speed-related accuracy variance (laser mice). Some mice only exhibit those traits under specific conditions (old Intellimice for example accelerate negatively when exceeding their malfunction speed limit). The best mice have neither of these and work predictably. So even identical CPI/sensitivity settings can behave very differently depending on what mouse someone uses.

At the end of the day the key point is to find a setting that works and stick to it. That is the only way to build solid muscle memory. If you're getting 20%+ accuracy on automatic guns in core modes then your aim should be good enough.

(And just to mention it, I mainly use my wrist as well and only engage my forearm if needed.)

[lewosch]

Originally posted by xDHRx:

At the end of the day the key point is to find a setting that works and stick to it. That is the only way to build solid muscle memory. If you're getting 20%+ accuracy on automatic guns in core modes then your aim should be good enough.

(And just to mention it, I mainly use my wrist as well and only engage my forearm if needed.)

I use A4Tech X7 mouse, don't know the model number, though. Logitech's cheaper-level gaming G300 model is known to have problems with buttons, especially right-click. It's also very small for my hand. Razer models are expensive, at least where I live.

And yes, although wrist aiming versus arm aiming is a debate among pro players, the nature of CoD games generally require a bit more sensitivity than competitive games like Counter Strike, so wrist aiming seems better and more comfortable in this regard. It's, for sure, up to personal preference.

I don't know about my BO2 accuracy stats but it was about 20% on CoD Modern Warfare 3, it was everything included though, sniper rifles, shotguns etc. Need to check the accuracy statistics on BO2 now...

[DHR]

The sensor your mouse uses is actually somewhat decent (no acceleration but plenty of prediction). Keep it at 400 CPI since that would be your native CPI. If you'd want to upgrade you could look for Nixeus Revel or Logitech G102/203 (same mouse, different names for different markets). Razer offers overpriced junk with poor QC for the most part.

[Autumn_]

Originally posted by lewosch:

Originally posted by xDHRx:

At the end of the day the key point is to find a setting that works and stick to it. That is the only way to build solid muscle memory. If you're getting 20%+ accuracy on automatic guns in core modes then your aim should be good enough.

(And just to mention it, I mainly use my wrist as well and only engage my forearm if needed.)

I use A4Tech X7 mouse, don't know the model number, though. Logitech's cheaper-level gaming G300 model is known to have problems with buttons, especially right-click. It's also very small for my hand. Razer models are expensive, at least where I live.

And yes, although wrist aiming versus arm aiming is a debate among pro players, the nature of CoD games generally require a bit more sensitivity than competitive games like Counter Strike, so wrist aiming seems better and more comfortable in this regard. It's, for sure, up to personal preference.

I don't know about my BO2 accuracy stats but it was about 20% on CoD Modern Warfare 3, it was everything included though, sniper rifles, shotguns etc. Need to check the accuracy statistics on BO2 now...

I've had 2 G300's in the past 4-5 years. And I can tell you it's not a bad mouse.
The only problem I had was my mouse wheel, got a little damaged, and wouldn't scroll.
Other than that, I cannot fault the mouse.

But this one is dying on me, but it had a good run. (The switches are dying. To many clicks.)

And onto the wrist vs. arm.

Personally I like only using my wrist. Because I don't have much muscle in my arms.
Thus it's little effort to actually kill things with higher sens.

But I do see the benifits to a lower sens, but it's really debateable. Because everyone is different.
And I would be fine using a lower one, but I'd need more mousemat space.....And it would make me tired.....Really fast.

Originally posted by xDHRx:

The sensor your mouse uses is actually somewhat decent (no acceleration but plenty of prediction). Keep it at 400 CPI since that would be your native CPI. If you'd want to upgrade you could look for Nixeus Revel or Logitech G102/203 (same mouse, different names for different markets). Razer offers overpriced junk with poor QC for the most part.

Question one, why do you say CPI instead of DPI?
(Surely it would make more sense for sake of the conversation to use DPI?)

And second, why do you say overpriced? All mice are roughly the same price...

I've been thinking about getting a Deathadder as my next mouse.
Because, It's got a nice sensor, nice switches, and it's got a decent size. The grip is a little diffrent to what I use, but really wouldn't be hard to change....

[DHR]

Originally posted by BouncyWizard:

Question one, why do you say CPI instead of DPI?
(Surely it would make more sense for sake of the conversation to use DPI?)

And second, why do you say overpriced? All mice are roughly the same price...

I've been thinking about getting a Deathadder as my next mouse.
Because, It's got a nice sensor, nice switches, and it's got a decent size. The grip is a little diffrent to what I use, but really wouldn't be hard to change....

CPI is actually the correct term since a mouse sensor processes counts, not dots. Not a big deal obviously but why not use the right term?

The only Razer mouse worth buying is the Deathadder. The 2013 edition goes for 50$ (which is okay), but the current Elite rendition costs about 75$ which is too pricey by comparison. A Nixeus Revel is just as good and costs barely 40$. Razer has poor QC as well (expect them to last barely one year) so the price tag is even more ridiculous. And lastly you need to deal with Razer Synapse which is (frankly speaking) the worst mouse software out there.

In general for anything related to mice I'd suggest visiting the Overclock.net mice forums. It's by far the most knowledgeable source on the internet when it comes to mice.

[Ak(zéro)lia]

:D

[Mr. Legends]

Kinda pointless to ask for sensitivity settings. Everyone's muscle memory is different. Just experiment slowly to find a comfortable setting and stick with it

[Formless]

Originally posted by Tdubbs:

4200dpi
2.15 in game
6/11 Windows
Enhanced pointer precision off

Edit: I should say that I've never used EPP, as it always made my mouse feel like it was doing it's own thing and not what I wanted it to feel like. Although I'm the same with VSync, never use it because it gives the mouse a delay in input and it's a great way to lose gunfights.

I use

2000 dpi

6.0 ingame

11/11 windows
without enhanced percision
Takes practice to use the High dpi

[Tdubbs]

Originally posted by Formless:

Originally posted by Tdubbs:

4200dpi
2.15 in game
6/11 Windows
Enhanced pointer precision off

Edit: I should say that I've never used EPP, as it always made my mouse feel like it was doing it's own thing and not what I wanted it to feel like. Although I'm the same with VSync, never use it because it gives the mouse a delay in input and it's a great way to lose gunfights.

I use

2000 dpi

6.0 ingame

11/11 windows
without enhanced percision
Takes practice to use the High dpi

Even without Enhanced Pointer Precision that's a whole lot of acceleration through Windows right there. If I really wanted to do high dpi, I'd still use my settings above and just jack my mouse to 12k.