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And we shouldn't have to jump through hoops to prevent the game trying to sneak the installation of an unsolicited EOS Windows background service that runs even when Sonic Superstars isn't running.
Oh no! an 'unsolicited background process!', If only there was some sort of 'task manager' that could put a stop to that pesky background process!.. 눈_눈
You know, as someone who genuinely gives a fk about video games, I'm just looking around and all I'm seeing are these people whining about something they literally know nothing about.
You know EOS is basically in 'anything' that has any form of cross functionality with the EGS 'at all', right? For example, Hades, the Outer Wilds and Disco Elysium, but none of ya'll gave a fk about it in those games did you. Here's the full list of steam games that use the EOS tech if you're curious: https://steamdb.info/tech/SDK/EpicOnlineServices/
All of these complaints are just nothing burgers.
I wanted to play Payday 3 with my friend but he couldn't because it requires making an external account but the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ registration process wouldn't properly send out a verification code until hours later even though the code expires in 10 minutes after initiating sending a code just because he doesn't use a Gmail account which he's not going to make just for one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game. We didn't have to deal with this nonsense before with the previous two games of the series, and we shouldn't have to today just because it's current year.
Which shouldn't happen in the first place and not everyone is tech literate to know that.
Just because you don't understand or refuse to understand due to your lack of empathy on why they're complaining about something does not mean they literally don't know what they're talking about.
The difference is that these other games that have EOS don't unnecessarily push on getting the user to manually make an external account which degrades the UX experience since all the end users want is playing the damn game already with no stupid interruptions.
Payday 2 recently implemented EOS for the sake of crossplay but players are still not required on manually making an Epic account to continue playing the game online.
Sonic Superstars is mainly a singleplayer game with local co-op. There is absolutely no need to prompt the player to make an unwanted account, particularly one from another service (Epic) whose direct competitor is the very service they bought a game from (Steam), every time they boot up the game if all they care about is the main singleplayer / local co-op content and not some side content that happen to have online multiplayer which is going to be forgotten in a month.
Well yeah, I don't empathise with people who make things that aren't problems into problems for themselves purely because other people tell them its a problem. I don't feel bad for people who do that, and anyone with any common sense wouldn't feel bad for them either.
and while you are correct that it's main game is purely single player, that doesn't mean it's 'only' single-player. Yes, it shouldn't prompt you to make an account, and from my understanding of this, you don't need to, therefore it's not an issue. If you want to interact with its multiplayer components, then you can just ignore that prompt entirely ¯\(°_o)/¯
Hades, Outer Wilds and Disco were single player, and nobody gave a ♥♥♥♥ then. So who tf really cares about this other than people who have no clue what they're talking about because someone else told them it was a bad thing? Yeah exactly.
So you dont need to use a EGS account, and you can close EOS with task manager if you have issues with it. So what's the issue? I don't see one.
This is basically just pure steam jingoism, 'because other people said it was bad'
"Installing Bonzi Buddy is fine, just turn off the well-hidden spyware!"
Same vibes.
We shouldn't have to jump through hoops to disable crapware. Hardly a difficult concept.
Oh no, right clicking my taskbar, selecting task manager and ending a process is such a massive hoop to jump through you guys, I dont know how anyone could ever manage such a thing ¯\(°_o)/¯
Yep its called STEAM, for the game on STEAM that I purchased to play on STEAM. you don't just get to gaslight with your stupid and ignore a game that was purchased, here, on steam, is trying to literally get people to sign up for another store's services.
Amen. loginception is cancerous.
Regardless, if other people find something that they find problematic or unnecessary then the developer/publisher should be called out for it whether you like it or not.
It's ignorant to think that people are making up problems just because you personally don't find what people find problematic affecting or annoying you that much or that you have stubborn arbitrary reasons to not have basic empathy to understand other people.
It's still an annoyance that shouldn't exist in the first place and thus consequentially as a result: people rated the game negatively because of it regardless of any workarounds.
No, not exactly. I literally told you why people didn't care for the other games that have EOS as much as Sonic Superstars and if you actually pay attention, it's because these games don't unnecessarily nag you right in your face suddenly to make an account.
Solutions are made to deal with issues that are precisely considered problematic, said issues/annoyances/inconveniences that shouldn't even have to exist in the first place.
Ridiculing inconvenienced people and victims for being stupid or unaware, real nice.
And yes I do ridicule idiots who get all of their opinions from youtubers, and people who try to play the victim card who, in truth, did it to themselves and thus deserved it. It's actually pretty fun tbh.
I'm sorry but that's also true, If you've got hit by Bonzi Buddy in 2023, then you've likely done it to yourself XD
Every startup? Not just of your game, but your entire system.
It literally installs a Windows background service. Not something that loads only when the game is running (which even Denuvo limits itself to these days, sheesh), but an actual OS service.
Sure the easier thing to do is just uninstall it (or block it from installing in the first place), nobody's saying it's difficult to get around. We're saying it's scummy that they do this in the first place. Even adware on software installers has an option to not install it. EOS is worse than adware on this front.
Oh, and because I missed it earlier:
The first issue is it lies to users in the first place. You're right, you don't need an EGS account. But it still says you do, and many users will believe the lie (hence all the complaints), which is a great way for Epic Games to artificially inflate their user count.
The second issue is that PC players (and not console players despite apparently also using it for cross-platform play) need to take extra steps to stop the nag screen happening, or it happens every time the game is started. Are we not allowed to dislike a nuisance?