This takes the cake for the worst sonic game I've ever played.

[PKantos]

This game would actually be so fun to play if it wasn't for the bosses and the multiplayer battle mode grind.

They should of made bosses separate to levels.
so you don't have to replay then every time you do a level in story mode, this should have been obvious Sega.

The last boss for the main story and the last 2 bosses for Trips story are a literal joke. I am convinced Sega did 0 play testing. They are way over tuned and I actually gave up.

The multiplayer grind is really bad.
First of all making the Ranks and the unlocks associated with them online only is a terrible decision.
Secondly, It takes 200 hours of playing against bots (because the game is dead) to unlock everything. That's like MMO level of grinding, WTAF Sega..

My advice. Don't purchase this game unless you're into being screwed around and punished.
Either play with mods or use cheat trainer or cheat engine.

[Umbe Nicky]

Originally posted by PKantos:

This game would actually be so fun to play if it wasn't for the bosses and the multiplayer battle mode grind.

They should of made bosses separate to levels.
so you don't have to replay then every time you do a level in story mode, this should have been obvious Sega.

The last boss for the main story and the last 2 bosses for Trips story are a literal joke. I am convinced Sega did 0 play testing. They are way over tuned and I actually gave up.

The multiplayer grind is really bad.
First of all making the Ranks and the unlocks associated with them online only is a terrible decision.
Secondly, It takes 200 hours of playing against bots (because the game is dead) to unlock everything. That's like MMO level of grinding, WTAF Sega..

My advice. Don't purchase this game unless you're into being screwed around and punished.
Either play with mods or use cheat trainer or cheat engine.

100% agree with you, I've been learning this the hard way...

[Chris_Chocobo]

Sega forgot about this game pretty soon. No Comic Book skins, no patch to fix bugs and bosses. It's a real shame and im sick of grinding Online, it takes too much time as you said.

[MaskedDragonM]

Just beat the true final boss and it's obnoxious too. Just way too long of a fight and not particularly hard but some of the attack opportunities are fairly cryptic and have to be done perfectly enough to survive before you run out of rings due to the meager and randomized drops

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Chris_Chocobo:

Sega forgot about this game pretty soon. No Comic Book skins, no patch to fix bugs and bosses. It's a real shame and im sick of grinding Online, it takes too much time as you said.

yeah i actually gave up tbh. Shelved the game pretty disappointed.

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Chris_Chocobo:

Sega forgot about this game pretty soon. No Comic Book skins, no patch to fix bugs and bosses. It's a real shame and im sick of grinding Online, it takes too much time as you said.

The fact Sega didn't even bother patching the game or making the bosses easier is even more disappointing. I have purchased sonic x shadow generations, i hope that game is good atleast..

[Pessimus Prime]

I admit that I was on the brink to kick the game out of the window and to have spoken some rough words about the devs while I was dealing with the last three bosses and especially the ultimate one. :-) But if games are too easy they are too fast over and maybe boring, and a boss should be challenging. Remember the old times on console (if already born): there you had to repeat ALL levels over and over again when lives and continues were out. Here you have infinite tries. And sometimes you just need to analyse the bosses attack-patterns and your opportunities for a while to succeed. So I finally realised for example that if I wait exactly in the middle behind Eggmans strange Mech then I always have an almost sure chance to kick that blue bomb in his fat ass. Then look whether he launches it on the left or th right side (if not on both) and head to that direction. Besides this you need the power of at least some chaos emeralds. Especially the help of the avatars, the slow-motion and that speed-jump there or how I should call it. Unfortunately I not yet managed to get the grey emerald and so also not Sonics Superpower that surely also can help. But in the end I did it even without that.

This is the game for PC I was waiting about two decades for - 2D-gameplay but with a modern look. I like that generally. And Im wondering why this took so long. 8-) Sonic is just better in 2D in my opinion...

The multiplayer especially regarding the main-game is not so important for me. A nice-to-have but no must-have. I think the game is anyway too fast and hectic for that.

[Mez Koo]

Sounds like your sonic game history isn't that deep if you think this is the worst sonic game... There are at least 6 other sonic games I would absolutely put below Superstars not even including Rise of Lyric because I just haven't gotten a chance to "experience" it myself.

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Sounds like your sonic game history isn't that deep if you think this is the worst sonic game... There are at least 6 other sonic games I would absolutely put below Superstars not even including Rise of Lyric because I just haven't gotten a chance to "experience" it myself.

There are other bad sonic games of course, I just hate this one the most.
I've been playing sonic games since the late 90's so please don't accuse me of not having much of a sonic game history.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by PKantos:

There are other bad sonic games of course, I just hate this one the most.

Right now sure because its a fresh experience/emotion but...

Originally posted by PKantos:

I've been playing sonic games since the late 90's so please don't accuse me of not having much of a sonic game history.

You're really going to say this is worse than Sonic 4, Forces, 06, Shadow, or 3D Blast?

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Pessimus Prime:

I admit that I was on the brink to kick the game out of the window and to have spoken some rough words about the devs while I was dealing with the last three bosses and especially the ultimate one. :-) But if games are too easy they are too fast over and maybe boring, and a boss should be challenging. Remember the old times on console (if already born): there you had to repeat ALL levels over and over again when lives and continues were out. Here you have infinite tries. And sometimes you just need to analyse the bosses attack-patterns and your opportunities for a while to succeed. So I finally realised for example that if I wait exactly in the middle behind Eggmans strange Mech then I always have an almost sure chance to kick that blue bomb in his fat ass. Then look whether he launches it on the left or th right side (if not on both) and head to that direction. Besides this you need the power of at least some chaos emeralds. Especially the help of the avatars, the slow-motion and that speed-jump there or how I should call it. Unfortunately I not yet managed to get the grey emerald and so also not Sonics Superpower that surely also can help. But in the end I did it even without that.

This is the game for PC I was waiting about two decades for - 2D-gameplay but with a modern look. I like that generally. And Im wondering why this took so long. 8-) Sonic is just better in 2D in my opinion...

The multiplayer especially regarding the main-game is not so important for me. A nice-to-have but no must-have. I think the game is anyway too fast and hectic for that.

There are things I like with the game, mainly visuals, some of the levels etc
but there are definitely a lot of things in this game that could of been done better.
I do like the 2D/3D look of the sonic games compared to Originals/Mania and the various other gameboy/ds sonic games.
I do like the infinite tries, That is really good and should be a feature going forward in sonic titles, I also like the lives system as well so having both options via a toggle in the settings is great.

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by PKantos:

There are other bad sonic games of course, I just hate this one the most.

Right now sure because its a fresh experience/emotion but...

Originally posted by PKantos:

I've been playing sonic games since the late 90's so please don't accuse me of not having much of a sonic game history.

You're really going to say this is worse than Sonic 4, Forces, 06, Shadow, or 3D Blast?

I'm not interested in having a debate with you.
Sonic 06 and Shadow 05 are way better then this game.
It's on par with the other garbage you mentioned though.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by PKantos:

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

You're really going to say this is worse than Sonic 4, Forces, 06, Shadow, or 3D Blast?

Sonic 06 and Shadow 05 are way better then this game.
It's on par with the other garbage you mentioned though.

Fair enough, I did enjoy Sonic 06 and Shadow 05 and not saying they're bad, but their "quirks" are enough of a turn off for me to put them at least on par with Superstars and Forces is okay imo just way too short.

[Mez Koo]

Originally posted by PKantos:

The multiplayer grind is really bad.
First of all making the Ranks and the unlocks associated with them online only is a terrible decision.
Secondly, It takes 200 hours of playing against bots (because the game is dead) to unlock everything. That's like MMO level of grinding, WTAF Sega..

What multiplayer grind? I couldn't care less about the robot parts and there is no achievement for the battle mode so I don't think I even touched it so was this a self imposed OCD thing about needing to get all the robot parts for 100% and couldn't you just farm coins in the main game?

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by PKantos:

The multiplayer grind is really bad.
First of all making the Ranks and the unlocks associated with them online only is a terrible decision.
Secondly, It takes 200 hours of playing against bots (because the game is dead) to unlock everything. That's like MMO level of grinding, WTAF Sega..

What multiplayer grind? I couldn't care less about the robot parts and there is no achievement for the battle mode so I don't think I even touched it so was this a self imposed OCD thing about needing to get all the robot parts for 100% and couldn't you just farm coins in the main game?

The battle mode has online only ranks and unlockable accessories with them that can be used offline.
Sega made it an absurd grind at least 200 hours to unlock those 4 accessories. If you want to-do a true 100% of the game you'd have to do that grind.

While you do earn coins from singleplayer as well, you can do it in battle mode and get 10 coins if you win.

[PKantos]

Originally posted by Mez Koo:

Originally posted by PKantos:

Sonic 06 and Shadow 05 are way better then this game.
It's on par with the other garbage you mentioned though.

Fair enough, I did enjoy Sonic 06 and Shadow 05 and not saying they're bad, but their "quirks" are enough of a turn off for me to put them at least on par with Superstars and Forces is okay imo just way too short.

sonic 06 and shadow 05 deffs have issues but all in all, its still really fun to play em.