trigger Den Defense?

[gardian06]

I have been trying for a little while now to trigger a Den Defense (for the 3rd tier Assassin guild reward Altier's sword I thing, and the chalenge says participate) I got the alertness up to max (completely red inside), but after a while it just goes away saying that I am back at secret.

I am in Seq3 with only the required Den having a master assassin (all the others are at 10), but he hasn't desided to come back yet.

[bananasloth]

If you train masters everywhere without having completed enough defenses, you still get the challenge so don't worry about it, just progress in the game.

Maybe one can't even trigger now because the only den leader is gone and has story relevance? So the game never attacks his den becase he needs to be able to get his position back? Idunno.

If you actually enjoyed it and want to do more of them, there's a sequence later on where notoriety is forced on you and doesn't go down I think. However since all your dens are already defended by masters, you might need to reload an earlier mission where at least one other den doesn't have a master assassin in it and try again with the notoriety.

[gardian06]

I read on a few FAQs & forum posts that if you have assigned leaders to your dens then you can't do the defense, so I have purposely not assigned leaders to my dens even though they are all lvl 10 with like 4K exp.

so I get credit for completing the Den Defenses (for the challenge) even if I don't actually do them myself?

[mbutton15]

I think the Den Defence can be triggered right up until ALL dens have their a assassin reach Master Assassin level. So you should be able to trigger a Den Defence with level 10 assassins assigned.

Once your notorioty reaches max you still have to perform a few high-profile actions. For me when trying to force a Den Defence I get notorious and then just go rouind performing high-profile assassinations on guards. I think I usually have to attack 4 groups of guards before the Den Defence is finally triggered.

But I have noticed that occasionally the you cross paths with the nobleman guy - can't remember his propper name, but it's the guy who has 2 guards following him - and you automatically get into a fight with them. The problem is, I think killing the nobleman instantly lowers the notorioty status and puts you back to secret status, so you need to run away from the nobleman if you see him coming.

I also think you can just replay the memory with the first Den Defense and victory will count towards the guild progress.

[gardian06]

guess that the den defenses were triggering, but because of all the clutter on the mini-map it was difficult to tell that a den needed defending.

the noblemen guys seem to only drop notoriety by half, so it is still possible to get back up, and one the 3rd den defense that I let trigger it actually happened with red flashing, and like 40%.