Dark and Darker

Dark and Darker

Pay-2-Win Cat Skin
The new 6 red stone cat skin actually lowers the head position which makes shields like the round shield much more effective at protecting your head. Yet the Twitch Drop version of the cat skin doesn't lower your head so the devs knowingly nerfed the free version of the cat race skin which means it is 100% pay-2-win :steamfacepalm:
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tobykyr Sep 13, 2024 @ 5:58pm 
huh
Scoqupt Sep 13, 2024 @ 6:09pm 
what
EsuZeno Sep 13, 2024 @ 6:30pm 
this is untrue devs already confirmed all skin hitboxes are exactly the same
Frost Sep 13, 2024 @ 8:15pm 
Another anime detective :undyne:
Grimmz Sep 13, 2024 @ 8:58pm 
so you gona quit playing or no?
Deathswarrior Sep 14, 2024 @ 2:57am 
Is this some sort of revelation? I mean all the SKINS with STATS that you PAY for are pay to win.
Filip Sep 14, 2024 @ 3:01am 
homie has a Lord/Master pronouns in bio careful guys
Major Lee Ree Sep 14, 2024 @ 3:17am 
To be fair when the opening statement on the Iron mace website reads: "We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.

We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers." Then I think it is a bit worrying and seems to be going against their core ethos.
Deathswarrior Sep 14, 2024 @ 3:24am 
I mean Pay to Win games usually come from that part of the world......not much coincidence.....and ya know having to buy red stones to *UNLOCK* your free to play game isn't shifty either...........
ionkiller Sep 14, 2024 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Deathswarrior:
I mean Pay to Win games usually come from that part of the world......not much coincidence.....and ya know having to buy red stones to *UNLOCK* your free to play game isn't shifty either...........

Not to be a shill, but if you're approaching Dark and Darker as a 'Free to Play' game, you set yourself up for failure.

The free version of Dark and Darker allows players to create one character and play Normal mode on all maps, complete quests, and build a stash of loot! Players who enjoy their time with the free version and want to experience everything the game has to offer can upgrade to the full version for 15 Redstone shards (equivalent to $30.00). The full version of the game includes access to the High-Roller mode, where players can equip their hard-earned gear to take on even more dangerous dungeons and increase the stakes. Players will also gain full access to the marketplace where they can trade with other adventurers, 9 total character slots, and the Shared Stash!

We hope that this version will give players a chance to experience some of what Dark and Darker has to offer and to give players who have not played since the playtests a chance to see what's new before they dive into the full edition.

It's been made clear from the start, it's a paid game (and was paid before) that you're getting free access to. To make the educated decision of whether or not you wanna pay $30 for basically what is the freedom to play an end-game ranked mode + make several characters.
Originally posted by Red iKnight:
To be fair when the opening statement on the Iron mace website reads: "We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.

We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers." Then I think it is a bit worrying and seems to be going against their core ethos.

Yet they are doing the same greed Nexon does. Remember when you had to use the stones to unlock new classes like Warlock/Bard. They've wanted to milk the playerbase since release.
Rikuto01 Sep 14, 2024 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by ❤Kali-mari Ðes Earth™❤:
Originally posted by Red iKnight:
To be fair when the opening statement on the Iron mace website reads: "We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.

We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers." Then I think it is a bit worrying and seems to be going against their core ethos.

Yet they are doing the same greed Nexon does. Remember when you had to use the stones to unlock new classes like Warlock/Bard. They've wanted to milk the playerbase since release.

They have to make money somehow. The servers don't pay for themselves. And you're fine with mentioning that, but conveniently leave out how they doubled back on that concept almost immediately because they recognized it was not popular with the base. Nexon wouldn't care, they would push it anyway.

As for the cat thing, if IM's track record is anything to go by that situation will be rectified pretty quickly. So I recommend you get all of your whining done now while you still have an issue to whine about.
Katitoff Sep 14, 2024 @ 1:58pm 
Originally posted by ❤Kali-mari Ðes Earth™❤:
Originally posted by Red iKnight:
To be fair when the opening statement on the Iron mace website reads: "We are a merry band of veteran game developers disillusioned by the exploitative and greedy practices we once helped create. We are experts who have worked on many of the biggest hits in Korea.

We’ve seen first hand how corporate game companies sell their soul for the easy payday. We are disappointed to see them doubling down on more and more exploitative practices, becoming more like casinos instead of bringing joy to gamers." Then I think it is a bit worrying and seems to be going against their core ethos.

Yet they are doing the same greed Nexon does. Remember when you had to use the stones to unlock new classes like Warlock/Bard. They've wanted to milk the playerbase since release.
Forgot the fact they scraped that, or you still try to farm jesters by bringing up irrelevant things that show us clearly that p2w is not their intention?
Beneficium Sep 14, 2024 @ 8:35pm 
the reaching is crazy
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Date Posted: Sep 13, 2024 @ 5:17pm
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